Marvel Team-Up #135
Issue(s): Marvel Team-Up #135
Some kids that Kitty Pryde was babysitting wind up sneaking out and going for an adventure in the sewers (this is after playing a board game called Sewers & Serpents)...
...and they wind up getting captured by Morlocks. Spider-Man has already been captured...
...but Kitty Pryde is able to catch up (via Magne-Car!)...
...and rescue the kids.
The leader of these Morlocks is a human. He says that he and many of the other human Morlocks were living in the sewer long before Callisto and her mutants came, so he doesn't really feel bound by any agreements between Callisto and Storm.
This actually sort of resolves a problem i had with the Morlocks' first appearance, where so many of the Morlocks didn't appear to be mutants. It seems the majority are just homeless humans. Still, this isn't a particularly good story.
Quality Rating: C-
Chronological Placement Considerations: Storm is still wearing her old costume and hair style, placing this before the X-Men go to Japan in Uncanny X-Men #172.
Continuity Insert? N
My Reprint: Marvel Tales #245
Inbound References (1): showColossus, Magik, Nightcrawler, Shadowcat (Kitty Pryde), Spider-Man, Storm, Wolverine
Fnord, the only way this issue works is to pretend that Wolverine isn't there. He's in Canada (or Japan) when the X-Men encounter the Morlocks for the first time and by the time he comes back, it's with the X-Men and Storm has cut her hair.
Posted by: Erik Beck | May 12, 2015 11:39 AM
Yeah, i guess we can assume that Wolverine briefly went back to the US to help arrange the X-Men's flight to Japan or something and then returned ahead of the rest of them.
The MCP does place this before Wolverine #1-4, but i don't think that's any better, since as you note Wolverine is said to be in Japan during the X-Men's first encounter with the Morlocks.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 12, 2015 4:21 PM
Oh, i take it back. I see now that the MCP breaks up the Wolverine story so that he stops back home at the X-Mansion after the Canadian part of his trip in Wolverine #1. But i think i'll just stick with what i've got.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 12, 2015 4:54 PM
Oh, I absolutely agree with your placement. I think Claremont should have to pop up like Byrne did years later and apologize and tell us to ignore Wolverine being here. Or maybe an editor.
Posted by: Erik Beck | May 12, 2015 7:23 PM
Fnord, Eric, the 1996 X-Men/Alpha Flight series is a continuity implant that takes place before Kitty and Peter split up as a result of Secret Wars. In the 1996 X-Men/Alpha Flight series, Lockheed is with Kitty in the Mansion, Storm has long hair not a mohawk and Wolverine is with the X-Men. So clearly Wolverine had to come back to the mansion at some point prior to X-Men 172. Either that, or the X-Men thought Storm's mohawk was so hideous that they made her disguise it with an image inducer. :)
Posted by: Michael | May 12, 2015 9:23 PM
Thanks Michael. From what you say it sounds like this issue can still stay here based on my reasoning and the X-Men/Alpha Flight story will just go in the same gap. But i'll fine tune it if necessary when i get there.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 12, 2015 9:31 PM
Of course, for that work, this issue has to happen during X-Men #171, because otherwise Wolverine would already know that Rogue is a member of the team - they start that issue still in the Morlock tunnels and then Rogue joins the team. (And you have to discount Peter's comment at the beginning of 172 that it's been too long since they've seen him).
No matter how you try to do it, they tried to have too much happen in too short a time - it's just like all the appearances the X-Men had to get in between coming back from space and before Wolverine went off to Canada in the first place, at a time when Kitty has supposedly been demoted.
Sheesh, and to think I had a hard time back when I was just trying to figure out where to place my X-Men Annuals between issues. Fnord, you have my admiration.
Posted by: Erik Beck | May 12, 2015 11:01 PM
Just re-reading "From the Ashes" and in #169, Kurt definitely says that Wolverine is already in Japan before they head down into the tunnels. So the MCP is wrong - this can't happen during Wolverine #1.
But, there is definitely a space for it between #170 and 171. 171 seems like it takes place directly after 170, but it can't. The X-Men are clearly leaving at the end of 170 to get medical attention for Kitty and Warren. Yet, there they are in the tunnels. But, if you look at the opening of 171, only Storm and Kurt are shown in the tunnels. It's entirely possible that after 170, they come back to the Mansion, this issue happens (with, I suppose, Logan returning home, although that's stupid and I blame the editors, not fnord), and then Storm and Kurt return to the tunnels, with Storm making it more clear that there's no attacking the surface world at the start of that issue.
In that case, you might have to break off #171 and place it after this issue. That would also allow for that 1996 series that Michael mentions.
Posted by: Erik Beck | August 26, 2015 4:44 PM
First, just to correct myself the second X-Men/Alpha Flight series was in 1998, not 1996.
Posted by: Michael | August 26, 2015 10:56 PM
I mentioned in another comment thread what a nightmare that X-Men/Alpha mini was (Strucker appearing and having developed a drug addiction despite the fact that he was dead at the time, Snowbird leaving Canada with no ill effects, Aurora being around Northstar AS Aurora and not Jeanne-Marie, etc.).
As for Wolverine here: he's obviously a mock cardboard standee that Iceman made up as a joke. He brought it by to surprise everyone and in that scene he's standing behind it doing his best impression of Logan... an impression so dead-bang accurate that Colossus goes along with it.
Posted by: Dan H. | October 3, 2015 8:47 AM
Forgive me if what I'm about to say is sacrilege to the gods of continuity.
People are jumping through big hoops to explain Wolverine's appearance. And yet, it's a single panel with no impact on the plot. If we're going to jump through hoops, wouldn't it be better to just come up for a reason why this wasn't really Wolverine?
I offer the following:
The bottom line...sometimes it might be better for continuity to treat trivial appearances as "typos". Not what was intended. Just ignore it.
Posted by: Peter Niemeyer | September 13, 2017 1:39 AM
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