Characters Appearing: Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Captain America, Crystal, Firestar, Hercules, Hybrid (Scott Washington), Justice, Namorita, Night Thrasher, Nova (Rich Rider), Rage, Silhouette, Speedball, Vision
New Warriors #26
Issue(s): New Warriors #26
The main story focuses on three of the New Warriors trying to "rescue" Marvel Boy while he's being transported to the Vault after his trial last issue. But we do check in on the other Warriors, too, and i'll cover them first.
First there is Rage and Speedball. Rage has gone to the Avengers to face the consequences of stealing the Quinjet in the previous arc. Consequences that include getting punched by a super-strong god.
The Avengers are all aware that Rage is just a kid at this point, but no one seems too concerned about Herc's actions. I guess that really includes Rage, too. I guess everyone is aware of what Rage is capable of handling, and they know it's not as bad as it looks.
Captain America says that they aren't going to press charges because of "our relationship with both you and the New Warriors". He also says that they haven't yet located and recovered the Quinjet because Nova disabled the homing beacon. And then it's decided that Rage has been kicked out of the Avengers.
Speedball (who is doing his best to make Peter Parker's fashion choices in the 1970s look sensible) has been waiting around outside to find out what the Avengers do to Rage. And he offers Rage membership in the New Warriors.
He also gives Rage a new costume (that's the "one condition"), although we don't really get to see it this issue.
Now for Silhouette and Night Thrasher. Silhouette goes to Night Thrasher's building. She is wearing a set of civilian clothes that Mr. Fantastic made for her out of unstable molecules.
Night Thrasher is working on a new outfit for himself. Silhoutte wants Night Thrasher to visit Chord in the hospital, but he says that he's not ready for that.
Ok, now on to the main plot. The issue opens with Marvel Boy fighting the Vault Guardsmen that are transporting him, but it turns out that they are just engaged in a little ad hoc training.
It's pretty clear at this point that the idea that the Guardsmen armor is powered by a broadcast in the Vault itself, as established in Avengers Spotlight #29, has been forgotten at this point. We can assume that the government has found some way to work around that. Maybe something in their truck broadcasts power, or maybe they have different armor for when they're on the road, or maybe they've just convinced Stark that the limitation wasn't practical. I'll stop mentioning it now unless i see a story bring it up again.
One of the Guardsmen, named Scott, takes his helmet off during the fight. This is Scott Washington, who will later become Hybrid.
Later, we see Namorita, Nova, and Firestar planning to rescue Vance.
I'll note that we don't see the deliberations that led the Warriors to decide to do this. Namorita is the organizer, and probably the instigator.
If it were just a matter of defeating the Guardsmen, the Warriors would have been successful. But they're actually stopped by Marvel Boy (note Namorita using her "true Sub-Mariner" power to channel electricity again; i'm still waiting for her to blow up like a puffer fish).
Marvel Boy says that he does not want to be rescued. He was convicted and he wants to serve out his sentence. But the Guardsmen let Marvel Boy and Firestar go off into the woods together.
I chuckled at Firestar thinking that if they agreed that they loved each other, they had better do it, right here and right now in the woods while everyone is waiting just over the hill. But this is a book about teenagers, and that's probably exactly how they think. Vance is a 'true love waits for marriage' guy, though.
The New Warriors don't get in trouble for trying to break out Marvel Boy as long as they help the Guardsmen put the doors back on their truck.
This was a nice downtime (more or less) issue.
Quality Rating: B
Chronological Placement Considerations: The debate here is about how soon this story takes place after New Warriors #25, and whether or not it makes sense to place the New Warriors' appearance in the Hero Killers annual event (including their own New Warriors annual #2) prior to this story. Whenever possible, i try to keep back-up stories with the main story in an issue. And the Silhouette back-up in that annual definitely takes place prior to this. In her back-up, she goes to Mr. Fantastic and confesses that the New Warriors have been illegally using his unstable molecules. In this story, it's already been established that Mr. Fantastic doesn't hold a grudge for that, and not only that but he has (at a minimum) created some civilian clothes for Silhouette. So at a minimum, enough time passes between issues #25 and #26 for the Silhouette back-up to take place, and, depending on how long it takes for Mr. Fantastic to create costumes, probably at least a day beyond that. And since the annual back-ups were all presented under a single title ("Days and Knights"), i assume that they were all meant to take place at the same time. That may raise the question of why Firestar was participating in the attempted rescue of Marvel Boy after getting assurances from her father that he'll wait for her, but as i noted above, Namorita seems to have been a bit of an instigator ("Vance was being railroaded!"). You could just as easily flip it around and ask why Firestar needed reassurance from her father after the romantic scene with Marvel Boy in this issue. Either way, the answer is that this is a difficult time for her. It seems to me that Namorita has been stewing about this and/or waiting for the prison transport as the best time to break him out. Possibly her experience in her own back-up in the annual, which resulted in a lack of faith in the justice system, was a factor.
The biggest question around putting space between #25 and #26 is Rage going to the Avengers regarding the stolen Quinjet. But the scene seems almost designed to be ambiguous regarding the timing. We don't see Rage actually confessing that he's stolen the Quinjet; the Avengers are already well aware of that. And we don't see Rage and the Warriors returning from #25. It's a lot like the Avengers have already done some deliberations and have now called in Rage to issue their verdict. Sure, Hercules throws his punch, but he's Hercules (or, possibly, Herc is only hearing about the incident for the first time, while Cap has been deliberating for a while). Or Rage needed some time to work up the courage to go to the Avengers, or the Avengers weren't available until now. In any event, we know that the Avengers' verdict doesn't happen right away, because in this issue Silhouette says that she hasn't seen Night Thrasher for "two days" (which isn't necessarily only two days since their last appearance that we've seen, but it does mean that even if i were to put this after issue #25, it would have to take place at least two days later). So since there has to be space between the end of #25 and the beginning of #26, i don't see a problem with allowing for enough space for the Warriors to be involved in the Hero Killers incident. The fact that Rage doesn't participate in Hero Killers is also potentially a clue, although it would be easy enough to say that he wasn't available that day.
Continuity Insert? N
My Reprint: N/A
I've only seen Robertson's later work, which seems gritter than this, which reminds me a bit (at least from these scans) of Dale Keown on Hulk. Looks really nice.
Posted by: Austin Gorton | March 21, 2016 11:06 AM
Starting this issue, "Kid Nova" is finally changed to just "Nova" in the introduction blurb.
Posted by: AF | March 21, 2016 11:28 AM
Wow, Fnord. After reading your explanation in the Chronological Placement Considerations, I really appreciate how much effort you put into placing the issues in chronological order. There's more text there than on the actual commentary for the issue. When I originally read this issue in "real-time", I assumed it took place after the annuals just based on the unstable molecules costume.
Posted by: clyde | March 21, 2016 11:48 AM
Thanks clyde, although in this case i'm sort-of responding to some comments that AF and Michael pre-emptively left about this issue's placement in the comments for Amazing Spider-Man annual #26 and New Warriors annual #2.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 21, 2016 12:14 PM
I never liked the way the Avengers were portrayed this issue. First, let's not forget that Vision doesn't get a "genocide is bad" speech for his actions in Galactic Storm. But also, none of the Avengers that "killed" the Supreme Intelligence were punished for their actions but now they want to punish Rage. I mean, there is a legitimate argument against Rage's actions- if Rage had asked for help, then maybe Dwayne wouldn't have to live with the burden of having killed Tai at such a young age. But the Avengers just seem concerned about the stolen Quinjet. Granted, Cap makes the argument that Rage should have asked for help, but still...
Posted by: Michael | March 21, 2016 8:14 PM
I love the art in this book: clear, concise with an old-school look to it.
Posted by: JSfan | March 22, 2016 8:43 AM
One other thing to note though regarding chronology- in the Firestar backup in the New Warriors Annual, Angel says its been "three weeks" since she's seen Vance. Does this really seem like it takes place that long after issue 25?
Posted by: Michael | March 22, 2016 10:49 PM
I know i'm arguing from a conclusion that i already want, since i don't want to cut up the New Warriors annual, but i don't think it's too crazy to suggest that Firestar's "three weeks" goes back to the last time she saw Marvel Boy before he was arrested. Remember that she learned that he was arrested in issue #21, and that was after trying to get a hold of him for "two days" after returning from Japan. The three weeks line is about how much she already misses him; i.e. if she already misses him after three weeks, how is she going to handle him being in prison for months or years? Given that context, "three weeks" since she last had any quality time with him, as opposed to since she literally last saw him in a courtroom, doesn't seem like too much of a stretch. I also think it's feasible that Marvel Boy was held in a local prison for a while before the Vault arranged transport. Given the nature of his crime and that fact that everyone knows he's really a good guy, he was probably a lower priority to get to the Vault than villains that were defeated during that period.
I grant that this probably wasn't FabNic's intention, but i'm always willing to contort myself to keep the back-ups with the annual, and in this case it doesn't even feel like a stretch.
This does make it seem that FabNic didn't intend all of the "Days and Knights" back-ups to take place at the same time (or he just didn't think about it), since we know that the Silhouette story has to take place before this issue and if we take the "three weeks" line literally, the Firestar story was meant to take place after this issue. Which is kind of odd. Why have a series of four page stories under the same title that all take place at different times? I assumed the point was we were jumping around and seeing what the various Warriors were up to on a day when they weren't together as a team.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 25, 2016 9:11 AM
They should bring the book back and make Fabian Nicieza write the book and two new members should be added to the new warriors and they are kyllian boddicker a.k.a wildpride from Dr. Strange Annual # 3 1993 and joaquin torres a.k.a the all new falcon.
Posted by: Cecil M. James | June 24, 2016 9:21 AM
I'm a little curious on why Rage was approached with the offer to join the Warriors, but Darkhawk wasn't even considered a spot on the team?
Posted by: Matt | January 14, 2017 9:57 AM
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