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Issue(s): Quasar #13, Quasar #14, Quasar #15, Quasar #16
Mark Gruenwald starts off his second year on the title with what can be seen as a mission statement for the series. These four issues take the idea of exploring the corners of the Marvel universe to the extreme, showing us weird characters long forgotten.
As i wrote a few years earlier, "almost every time i'll review a comic that features a dangling plotline or a strange seemingly one-off character, someone will leave a comment saying 'That gets wrapped up in Quasar' or 'This guy appears again in Quasar'". And a lot of that is really about this arc specifically. I read (or re-read; the first time i read these issues i wouldn't have been able to recognize the majority of the characters) this arc when i wrote that blog post. And i have to confess that, i was actually kind of disappointed. The focus of this series is really a battle between the Stranger and the Overmind, with Quasar and the Squadron Supreme caught in the middle. All of the minor obscure characters don't get much screen time. They're shown to be captive experiments of the Stranger and they wind up as cannon fodder for the Overmind. Some get a few panels but for the most part it's more of a "flip through some old comics and pick some guys out for a crowd scene" situation, not very different than Mark Gruenwald picking out the Scourge victims. What i was really hoping for was something closer to each of these characters perhaps getting an issue or two devoted to them. Just what are the Ethicals? Why does Jakar look just like the Stranger? Are Ten For the Mean Machine and Gorr the Golden Gorilla as silly as they seem, or is it possible to turn them into interesting and serious characters? Instead the characters are all just kind of dumped on us.
Oh and did i mention the Squadron Supreme? Gruenwald brings them to our dimension in this arc. Regular readers of this site will know that that added to my disappointment
But it's more that the use of "continuity" didn't result in great stories. The characters, for the most part, are just there. "Hey, look, it's Woodgod!" I worry that it was stuff like this that ultimately contributed to Marvel's eventual downplaying of continuity in the future. In theses issues, in the lettercols, the editors beg for readers to write in and criticize the series to help them get more readers on the book. Then, issue #20, the issue that publishes the contest results that lists all the obscure characters that appear in this arc, they also initiate a new contest seeking ideas to bring the book from the "bottom of the sales heap" to the top. The book will actually last until issue #60, but it seems like it was hurting for readers.
This arc seems to be making an effort to attract new readers by bringing in the big guns in terms of cover artists: Jim Lee, Todd McFarlane, Mike Mignola, and, well, Steve Lightle (Lightle is fine, but ok, he wasn't a big gun). But fans of those artists would be coming to this book and finding a huge cast of characters running around, the majority of whom are not really explained or given a lot of attention. Continuity-minded writers like Roger Stern or John Byrne have been able to take obscure characters and concepts and build accessible and interesting stories around them. What we have here is more for old timers or those willing to put on their archeologist hat and go digging for the original appearances. And that's always been a part of the appeal of Marvel but you still need regular readers who come for the stories. But it's not a formula for sales. The argument in more modern times is that continuity and story are at odds with each other, and this arc might be an example of that, but it doesn't have to be true.
All that said, despite my disappointment, there is a lot to enjoy here. This arc is Gruenwald's love letter to obscurity, and being the lover of continuity that i am, i find a lot for me in these issues. Just seeing these characters, even if not a lot is done with them (and i should note that some of the characters will appear again in upcoming issues), is tons of fun. And there is a story here, or actually two, and they are interesting in their own right.
We begin with Quasar on the moon of Saturn where the original Captain Mar-vell has been buried. A few issues back (Quasar #11; see the interview that Michael linked to in the comments) it seems that Gruenwald got direction from editor Howard Mackie to show Quasar having a hard time adjusting to his new responsibilities, and Gruenwald seems to have gone all in with that, showing Quasar basically wracked with self-doubt.
Quasar's thoughts are interrupted by a signal from the protective net that he placed around the Earth last issue, and he heads back to find the Squadron Supreme.
I'd expect Quasar to be the sort of goody goody that has studied the Avengers files until he had them all committed to memory, but he doesn't recognize them. And the Squadron are under the impression that they've landed on their own version of Earth, and are disconcerted to find that their city is missing. So Quasar winds up in a fight with the Whizzer and Doctor Spectrum, the latter allowing a little Green Lantern vs. Green Lantern action.
Quasar contacts Eon and asks him to send in Makkari to even the odds, but the situation is sorted out before he arrives. The other Squadroners had held back, with Arcanna even saying that she thinks she's seen Quasar before. And then she stops the fight, confirming that they're on a different Earth. Hyperion then gets Quasar to identify which Earth they are on by asking who the world's chief protectors are. When Quasar starts to respond by listing the Avengers and the Fantastic Four, Hyperion cuts him off, happy to hear that they're on the Avengers' world.
A cute joke when Makkari arrives is that the team is introduced as the ex-Squadron Supreme, and Makkari hears the X-Squadron Supreme and says, "Just what this world needs. Another X-Group.".
The Squadron Supremers ask to be taken to the Avengers so that they can be sent home, but Quasar says that they don't have any dimensional travel experts on the team at the moment, so he takes them to Project Pegasus instead.
Quasar asks Makkari to stick around. Makkari is shown glaring at Hyperion. We'll find out what that's about later.
As Quasar is taking the team to Project Pegasus, we cut away to a homeless man regaining his sanity. This is the Overmind.
Quasar leaves Squadron Supreme at Project Pegasus and then flies off to find someone that can help with a dimensional travel problem. You'll notice Makkari and Hyperion having a conversation in the background.
When Quasar gets to his office - after noon - his new employee H.D. Steckley criticizes him for being late and gives him the work that she's been doing on the new customers that she's brought in (which include Cordco and Delmar, both existing Marvel companies, and an Occult Library in Boston).
Quasar reacts to this by thinking to himself, "That is one peculiar woman I've hired", and then sequestering himself in his office to do Quasar stuff. I know she's really Moondragon, but i honestly don't see anything odd about her. I think it's more odd to have a boss of a start-up company that comes in at noon and never does any work.
Quasar attempts to contact Mr. Fantastic, although oddly he calls as Wendell Vaughan and not surprisingly gets no response. It seems he also tries to contact Dr. Strange (it's not actually shown, but later Quasar will say that he tried). He then talks to Eon. Eon himself could send Squadron Supreme home, but for territorial reasons he doesn't want to. A pretty big loophole is that he doesn't mind giving Quasar info on who else might be able to help.
Note that Eon is very literal about the situation with Quasar's father, who is dead.
Later, Quasar detects an energy disturbance and flies out of his office to find a flying saucer. He finds that someone inside (again, Overmind) is trying to take control of his mind. In issue #9, Quasar set up a failsafe to protect himself from mind control attacks. The way i understood it, it was literally a failsafe, like an automatic defense mechanism that would protect him while he wasn't conscious. But it seems to be more refined than that and it keeps him from getting possessed. Seems outside of Quasar's normal scope of powers.
Since he can't be possessed, Overmind sends out some people to fight him, and they are Shape and Haywire, two of the Squadroners.
Quasar captures them and brings them back to Project Pegasus. It turns out that the rest of the Squadron Supreme are gone, except for Hyperion who had left with Makkari, and the two of them are just now returning.
Quasar agrees to go with Hyperion to chase the Overmind (they don't know it's him yet). First he contacts Eon to let him know he's going off planet (even though Quasar is supposed to be protecting Eon; the idea is that Quasar can always quantum-jump back), and he asks to say goodby to his father before he leaves.
It's going to be awkward when Quasar finds out that his father is dead!
Makkari also goes with Quasar and Hyperion. I find his slang speech patterns a little odd, but we've already (retroactively) seen that Makkari likes to spend a lot of time among humans, so i guess that's why.
As Michael notes in the comments, when people write in to complain about Makkari's dialogue in the lettercol for issue #30, Jack Kirby's dialogue from the original Eternals series is cited.
Here's where we find out that it's the Overmind.
When Quasar follows the trail, Eon tells him that they are on the Stranger's planet. And as Quasar, Makkari, and Hyperion explore the planet, we start to see all the obscure characters that i mentioned at the top of this post. See the References for all of these characters.
We start with the Ethicals.
Ego-Prime hilariously tries to eat Quasar.
Meanwhile, Makkari passes Woodgod.
Then encounters the Axi-Tun Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
And then the Star-Dancer.
And from her to the Trikon.
Hyperion, meanwhile, passes Alpha the Ultimate Mutant and the Futurist. I love that these two guys are put together, but it's the sort of connection that i wish was explored more.
He then passes one guy that i still wouldn't have recognized on my own, due to the coloring. I thought this was some Monster Age monster, but it's apparently the creature from Kosmos from the Wasp's origin story (his name is Pilai).
Next up are the Dakamites, appropriate characters to bring Hyperion down since they're also Supermans.
We see a few more characters in this roundup. Starting at eleven o'clock we have Hyperion and the Dakamites, Stardust, the Presence and Red Guardian II, the DC character Starman, Makkari and the Trikons, the Captive (later Threkker), Dragonfly, Mercurio the 4-D Man, the second Bi-Beast, Fusion, Ego-Prime and Quasar, the Ethicals, Woodgod, Alpha and the Futurist, and the Axi-Tun Horsemen.
Like i said, despite the characters being something between Easter Eggs and canon fodder, it's pretty awesome to see them all here.
We're not done yet. That's all that was in issue #14, but there are more in #15. When Quasar escapes from Ego-Prime, he finds that Krakoa is in the same habitat.
And then he spots Rocket Raccoon and Jack of Hearts.
At this point Overmind gets tired of waiting for Quasar to find him, so he has Doctor Spectrum create a giant arrow in the sky to lead Quasar to him. Quasar's mind protection does not extend to people just reading his mind.
You may have noticed the one character we haven't seen on the Stranger's homeworld is the Stranger himself. He's not home. He's off investigating mysterious deaths amongst the Watchers (i said there were two actual stories in these issues; this is the second one).
Quasar is sent to retrieve the Stranger, or else the Overmind will cause brain-death in the Squadron Supreme. He finds the Stranger carrying a dead Watcher...
...and initially gets the wrong idea, but the Stranger sets him straight.
However, the Stranger refuses to go home and fight the Overmind because he's busy investigating the Watcher mystery. He doesn't really care if Overmind kills the Squadron. So Quasar decides he's going to help solve that mystery. He contacts Eon, who tells him that there's an unusual situation of two Watchers being in the same place. So Quasar goes there. First thing we see is an explanation for why there have been different art styles for the Watchers.
Quasar winds up having to fight the Watcher, Otmu that beefed himself up.
When the Stranger shows up, he identifies Otmu as a renegade.
The combined attack is too much for Otmu to resist, so he says that he has no choice but to "renounce my watch" which means dying. The other Watcher tells them that Otmu was behind a "philosophical revolution" that says that the mere act of observing is a form of interference. So this has called other Watchers, approximately 10 billion of them, to renounce their watch and will themselves "unalive".
With that mystery seemingly resolved, the Stranger agrees to go back to his planet to fight Overmind.
Issue #16 is a double-sized, $1.50 issue.
When the Stranger returns home to his world, he's immediately caught in a trap by the Overmind. To stall for time and give the Stranger time to recover, Quasar asks Overmind to recount his origin. Overmind recognizes this as a ploy but obliges anyway. A few interesting things about the origin. One thing that caught my attention in the reprints of the Overmind's first appearance (from the Marvel's Greatest Comics series) is while the Overmind was called an Eternal, a footnote made sure to let us know that he had nothing to do with Jack Kirby's Eternals. But this story has Overmind describing himself as the Eternals of the world we call Eyung. And he also describes (what he thinks are) the Stranger's people as the Eternals of the world we called Gigantus. Maybe i'm superimposing my own ideas on that, but it sounds like Gruenwald is saying that they are Eternals in the Jack Kirby sense, taking into account the idea that we saw in Silver Surfer #5 that said that many worlds had Eternal, Deviant, and human strains thanks to Celestial visitations. In any event, Gruenwald does not make any attempt to distinguish this use of the world "Eternal" from the Kirby sense, even though we do have Makkari in this arc and the background plot with him and Hyperion hinges on an understanding of that word. So it would be careless if Gruenwald was using the world Eternal in a different context in the same issue.
The second, less esoteric (relatively speaking!) point is that the origin for the Stranger, that he was a gestalt of the minds of the people of Gigantus the same way Overmind is for Eyung, turns out to be false. The Stranger just found a guy like that and pretended to be him when he met the Overmind.
While the Stranger is recovering and then fighting the Overmind, the Overmind brings in his mind-controlled Squadron Supreme as well as the captives that were on the Stranger's planet, all to fight Quasar, Makkari, and Hyperion. Quasar at first wasn't sure if he should even get involved in the fight between the Overmind and the Stranger, due to the fact that the Stranger was keeping captives, and not even treating them well. But now he's committed to fighting.
A couple new creatures in the above scan: Gorr the Golden Gorilla and a Monitor.
A speedster vs. speedster battle when Makkari goes up against the Whizzer. More of that in the next entry.
Hyperion is no longer wearing the sunglasses he needed while he was blind.
As the Stranger recovers and starts to give the Overmind a run for his money, Quasar puts a bug in his ear about releasing control of the Squadron to give him more mental power to stand up to the Stranger. Stranger thinks he's betraying him, but Quasar needs the Squadron to help fight against the Stranger's captives. And Overmind decides it is a good idea, and the mind-controlled Squadronners are freed.
Hey, didn't i see this on a DC cover?
More captives coming in:
Let's see, that's Diamondhead, Ten For, Megaman, Sky-Walker, Meru the Mind-Bender, and Sphinxor.
So, big battle.
Meanwhile, a large group of Watchers show up. They need to ask the Stranger something. But they have to wait until the battle is over.
Overmind thinks that the Watchers are there to help the Stranger, though.
Overmind becomes increasingly paranoid about the Watchers and winds up losing to the Stranger. So, the Watchers are proving Otmu correct. They are interfering just by watching (of course, they could have remained invisible).
But for god's sake, don't tell them that!
The problem is that Otmu's theory has continued to get passed around between the Watchers, like a virus, and is continuing to cause the Watchers to kill themselves. I should note that the word "oblivion" gets thrown around a lot in this arc; Jakar begged Quasar for oblivion, and the information that is killing the Watchers is called the Oblivion Virus. Along those same lines, Stardust tried to get Quasar to unbond him from a conscious human form, although he didn't actually use the world oblivion. An actual entity called Oblivion, the master of Deathurge, will be appearing in this series soon enough.
For now, the Watchers have come to the Stranger for a solution to their problem, since they say he is like them, except that he actively experiments instead of just passively observes.
He tells them to actively experiment the way he does, but they say they can't because it won't serve their greater purpose. And with that, they explain what their purpose is: to record everything for the next cycle of the universe.
Quasar has a thought, but no one will listen to him. So he uses his powers in an attention-getting bid (it's kind of weird)...
...and that's enough to get them to listen.
His point is that even in dying, the Watchers are "interfering". Because the Stranger being off investigating their deaths is what allowed the Overmind to infiltrate his planet. The Watchers should therefore just strive to be as unobtrusive as possible, accepting the possibility that they are going to affect the outcome sometimes. The Watchers buy this, and even the dead ones start coming back to life.
The "lesser of two evils" phrase was also used earlier when Quasar was deciding if he should get involved in the fight between the Stranger and Overmind, so i guess that's also a theme of this issue. And that may explain why Quasar ultimately decides not to challenge the Stranger over the treatment of his captives (many of which have escaped at this point).
It's on the way home that we get the explanation for the Makkari/Hyperion interactions and Hyperion being able to see again: it turns out that he is actually an Eternal.
They don't actually say, "and Eternals have control over their own molecules, so i learned to heal my eyes" but i guess that's the idea.
A final scene. H.D. Steckley has managed to get into Quasar's office while he's been away, and she immediately went to the bookshelf that hides the doorway to the pocket dimension where Eon resides. But Eon's been waiting for her.
I want to make sure it's clear after all my comments at the top: this is a really fun story. It's not necessary to know who all the goony ghoulies on the Stranger's planet are. You do have to know who the Squadron Supreme are (we're not really made to care about them in this story), but beyond that this is a fun cosmic battle between two strange cosmic entities, and the examination of the Watchers is interesting. Mike Manley's art isn't as flashy as the cover artists, but he's able to manage a huge, huge cast of characters and depict interesting battle moments. And hey, look at all the characters that i get to include on this site because this story gives them a second appearance. Fun stuff.
Quality Rating: B
Chronological Placement Considerations: For the Squadron Supreme, this takes place soon after 1989's Squadron Supreme: Death of a Universe graphic novel. But Death of a Universe begins in the aftermath of the Squadron Supreme maxi-series, which i have in 1986, so that's where i placed Death of a Universe as well. Since the characters are coming in from another universe, i'm allowing an indefinite amount of time to pass for them until the start of this issue. It's been "days" since Quasar last saw his father, last issue. I should note that there are more characters that will turn out to also have been amongst the Stranger's prisoners (Gargoyle and the Weird Sisters, and apparently also characters from X-Men: Deadly Genesis); i haven't listed them here.
Per a Handbook entry, Chorus is still in control of Overmind while he's a vagrant, but Overmind regains control, "apparently absorbing the six minds of Chorus into his own". I'll treat that as the "death" of Chorus and won't list it with Overmind appearances going forward.
As seen in one of the scans above, Ten For announces himself by name. A Handbook entry will later imply that that's really Fabrikant, another member of his species, who will appear in the Starblast crossover, not Ten For. Basically the Handbooks say that a few of the Starblasters are seen here while escaping from the Stranger's planet. It's possible that Fabrikant is just behind the scenes, although i'm also interested in the possibility that Ten For is Fabrikant.
Continuity Insert? N
My Reprint: N/A
Inbound References (4): show
It's a drag, I heard Ego-Prime was going to pop up here and be pretty epic. I mean I saw a panel and it just seemed really raw that he'd try to eat someone but it sounds like it was played more for humor. I thought he gave Thor and team a huge epic battle so this sounds like a letdown.
Posted by: davidbanes | June 22, 2015 6:22 PM
FNORD - here's another cover that had that same image - http://superman86to99.tumblr.com/post/66897187210/action-comics-600-may-1988-anniversary-issue.
Also, when did Hyperion become blind originally?
Posted by: clyde | June 22, 2015 7:07 PM
Ah, that's actually very close to the image i posted. And actually prior to this story. Thanks Clyde. I was just making a quick notice of "Wonder Woman and Superman" kissing, but now i wonder if it was a nod.
I didn't show a scan, but Hyperion was blinded in a heat ray contest with the Sinister version in Squadron Supreme #8.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 22, 2015 7:13 PM
The more I see of this series the more I think I might have enjoyed it back in the day if I had given it a chance. It could use better art, though. This isn't terrible, especially by 90s standards, but it isn't impressive either.
Posted by: Robert | June 22, 2015 7:32 PM
All I can think with this entry is Rocket Raccoon just going "these guys are way too normal for me".
Posted by: Ataru320 | June 22, 2015 7:43 PM
Regarding Makkari's slang, Gruenwald claims on the letters page that Makkari spoke in slang in the original Eternals series- he uses "Can that funky corn, Sersi" as an example.
Posted by: Michael | June 22, 2015 8:45 PM
Where does Arcanna recognize Quasar from?
Posted by: Luis Dantas | June 22, 2015 9:21 PM
Where is Krakoa's location in this story, out of curiosity?
Does Quasar still have cosmic awareness at this point? Would that be an applicable answer to thinking Moondragon is suspicious? I'd personally just put it down as a "don't I know you from somewhere" moment.
Posted by: Max_Spider | June 22, 2015 9:25 PM
I don't think we're supposed to know why Arcanna recognizes Quasar. I assume she saw him in a magic vision at some point or something? They've never appeared in a book before.
The Stranger was described as a possible fourth head for the Living Tribunal in Silver Surfer #31, but i'd say we could rule that off as being too cryptic to be accurate. I guess we could say it's the same with the Watchers here; all they're saying is that he likes to observe like they do, but it's not clear for what purpose. But the Stranger has been shown to be collecting specimens since the Silver Age with Magneto and Abomination.
Krakoa is held on the Stranger's planet, in the same cell/habitat as Ego-Primer.
I don't believe Quasar has cosmic awareness. From the lettercols, it seems like they avoided giving him that because it was too vaguely defined.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 22, 2015 9:33 PM
These were the first issues of Quasar I picked up, and I was intrigued enough to keep buying. There were lots of flaws, but I thought the series concept had potential. There was continuity baggage with the Silver Surfer and other cosmic heroes (mainly Capt Marv and Warlock being dead), so I thought an actual human exploring the universe might open up things.
One then I noticed was that when Captain America was good, Quasar seemed off, and when Quasar was good, the Cap issues weren't too good.
Posted by: Chris | June 22, 2015 10:24 PM
I luvs the Quasar (for all that he makes a REALLY dumb hash of running his business with the never working - but you could argue that that's good Marvel Spider-Man stuff).
fnord, the "Remember personal info?" function doesn't seem to work despite repeated checking. If mine didn't show as click pull-down option in the fields, I would tend to decline comment, as I mostly did before I realized about the pull-down.
Posted by: BU | June 23, 2015 10:15 AM
BU, all i can say about the Remember checkbox is that it puts a cookie on your computer. So cookie or history settings or privacy plug-ins would be the things to look at if you wanted to troubleshoot it. But it works for me in IE and other browsers and unfortunately i'm not really able to do anything more. My system kind of is what it is at this point with regard to stuff like that. Sorry.
Everyone, in the future, please use the Contact page or the Forum for technical issues. Thanks!
Posted by: fnord12 | June 23, 2015 6:28 PM
Clyde, if I may:
In Squadron Supreme #7, Sinister Hyperion is pulled from nothingness by Master Menace, in a bid to act against the Squadron. Hyperion is displaced to the same location as Sinister Hyperion takes his place, feigning amnesia. He murders Howard Shelton in a way that mimics a heart attack, and then begins working on seducing Zarda.
In SS #8, Hyperion escapes and confronts His counterpart, and they eventually engage in an atomic vision battle, which leaves both combatants damaged; Hyperion is blinded, while Sinister Hyperion is in even worse shape. Hyperion pounds the Sinister Hyperion until he discorporates.
Of course, you could have just read Fnord's SS entry, but it was fun recounting these two issues.
These four issues of Quasar were a great bit of fun. I'd like to see someone do something with these characters in some capacity.
Posted by: Vin the Comics Guy | June 23, 2015 8:51 PM
"Cheater"? Is the Overmind secretly a giant 5-year-old?
Steve Lightle was briefly a big name at DC in the mid-1980s, but shot his career in the foot by his association with the horrendously written Doom Patrol revival(before Grant Morrison got on it).
Maybe Gruenwald's inclusion of some obscurities was due to copyright renewal purposes?
Posted by: Mark Drummond | June 26, 2015 8:08 PM
Nice little house ad for #16: https://36.media.tumblr.com/e514ddef001d73f2523fb7fd79662289/tumblr_o2lj7yp06x1tms107o1_1280.jpg
Posted by: AF | February 15, 2016 11:02 AM
I was an on-again, off-again reader of Quasar for three and a half years, and so I didn't get these issues. Looking over fnord's synopsis, I doubt I would really have had too much of an appreciation for how much old continuity Mark Gruenwald was weaving together. At the time these were being published I had only been a regular month-to-month reader of Marvel for a couple of years, so I would have been clueless about who nearly all of these characters were supposed to be.
Of course, in the quarter century since then, I've bought a ton of back issues and trade paperbacks. So, looking through this entry in 2016, I have at least a passing familiarity with most of these characters, and it's cool to see which obscure ones Gruenwald utilized. I'll probably seek out these back issues, or if there's a Quasar Classic TPB released that collects this storyline I'll pick it up.
fnord, you can tag the Captive. The 2006 Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe confirms that the Captive from Captain America Annual #3 and the guy seen here are the one and the same, and that the Epsiloni known as "Threkker" who subsequently appears as one of the villains in the Starblast crossover is also the same one.
Posted by: Ben Herman | April 9, 2016 3:07 PM
When did the Stranger break into Muir Island to break Dragonfly out? That was never his modus operandi before!? When he arrived on Earth to do something he tended to make his presence felt.
Posted by: Nathan Adler | April 9, 2016 11:40 PM
She escapes shortly after being imprisoned when Erik the Red breaks into the complex - X-Men 104. She is later abducted by the alien Stranger to his laboratory world, where she and other abductees are manipulated by the Overmind into battling Quasar.
Posted by: clyde | April 10, 2016 12:28 AM
@clyde: So exactly what visit to Earth did the Stranger take her back to his laboratory world? How soon after his encounter with the Champions (#12) was it - before or after he coordinated the fight between Hulk and Thing in MTIO Annual #5? And if then, where did Dragonfly hide herself in the interim?
Posted by: Nathan Adler | April 10, 2016 1:06 AM
I'm not sure. Perhaps Michael or FNORD will know the answer to that question.
Posted by: clyde | April 10, 2016 1:12 AM
I do think it was clever of Gruenwald to include a cameo by the ultra-obscure Sky-Walker character from Daredevil #128. I'm curious if he's shown up again since.
Posted by: Ben Herman | April 10, 2016 12:42 PM
Added the Captive, thanks.
Regarding Dragonfly, i mean, she could have hidden herself anywhere. But we know from Iron Man annual #12 she is the sister of Callahan Dultry, a former actress turned animal trainer. Maybe Callahan was helping hide her. Or, if you really want to get into some fan fiction, maybe Callahan was working for the Stranger.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 10, 2016 12:48 PM
"Where does Arcanna recognize Quasar from?"
Luis, she saw him in the memories of the Nth Man during Death of a Universe.
Posted by: BU | April 11, 2016 10:20 AM
Seems Marvel really wanted to give this story arc a push. Plenty of house ads in their books and covers by Todd McFarlane, Jim Lee and Mike Mignola.
Posted by: AF | April 28, 2016 11:26 AM
Some of the retcons here bug me. I don't see the advantage of making Hyperion an Eternal AND the last survivor of a subatomic planet. And the WHOLE POINT of the Watchers is they once gave knowledge to a planet that wasn't ready for it and the population destroyed themselves. That's why they don't interfere. The idea that they're saving all their knowledge to pass on to the next universe contradicts their entire purpose. It's like Gruenwald starts retconning and just can't stop.
Posted by: Andrew | August 2, 2016 8:19 AM
Andrew - IMO, the Watchers giving the next universe all the details of this one prevents them from making the same mistakes.
Also, this was one of my favorite arcs of Quasar.
Posted by: clyde | March 30, 2017 8:41 PM
Okay, am I sick for finding hilarious that scene of the four Watchers dying?
Like, without even saying anything they just fall down like flies. Not with their bodies dramatically bending over or something, but falling like puppets, standing upside down, with blueish skin and the three dots baloons, like "uhm. Ok I heard enough. Byee."
Posted by: KombatGod | October 7, 2017 12:32 PM
Another one to add to the list of incomprehensible storytelling. Gruenwald pulled a Claremont perfectly. I frankly don't know how you manage to understand these kin of stories. Literally every panel had a different character without any explanation.
Did I miss an issue featuring the Stranger somewhere along the previous 30 years of Marvel? I thought the Stranger's true name WAS Jakar. There here suggests they are two different characters.
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