Vision and the Scarlet Witch #6
Issue(s): Vision and the Scarlet Witch #6
Also attending are a few Avengers (Wasp, Captain America, and the recently added Sub-Mariner), Dr. Strange, Quicksilver, Crytal, and Luna, the Vision's "mother", Martha Williams (but not her biological son, Wonder Man), Glamor and Illusion, and the Vision and the Scarlet Witch's real estate agent, Norm Webster.
Having all these characters interact is a shared universe goldmine, with the Wasp referring to Ultron as her kid, Norm Webster asking Crystal if she ever gets lonely on the moon...
...and Captain America and the Sub-Mariner perhaps inappropriately suggesting that since the Vison was built from the android Human Torch, this is practically an Invaders reunion.
One connection that i'm surprised wasn't made was between the Wasp and Magneto, who spent some time together not too long ago during the first Secret Wars.
After all that (and the muddled comment about the New Mutants and Power Pack; see below), a narration panel apologizes for all the "continuity"...
...and proceeds to a Last Supper rendition of the Thanksgiving meal, with Magneto presumably sitting alone on the opposite side of the table.
It's too bad that the Illuminati wasn't really operating at this point, because if Professor X had been able to get word to Namor and Dr. Strange, or, through Iron Man, to Captain America, that he really supported Magneto's reformation, things might have gone smoother here, which might have helped in the long run. Cap has accepted Sub-Mariner into the Avengers, so you'd think he'd be more open to Magneto's outreach attempt here.
Magneto eventually departs thanks to the cold reception he's getting, but he quickly turns around when he realizes that someone is lurking outside Wanda's house. He quietly calls out the Vision and Quicksilver and helps them face down an attack by the original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, sans the Scarlet Witch but including a Magneto and a Quicksilver.
The Brotherhood turn out to be constructs created by the Toad, who apparently still has access to the Stranger's equipment. He's demanding that he now be called the Toad-King, and his goal is the destruction of the Avengers, X-Men, and even Magneto for all of the abuse heaped on him over the years. The trigger for the attack at this time is learning that the Scarlet Witch is pregnant, since he is still obsessed with her.
This characterization of the Toad ignores his recent portrayal in Amazing Spider-Man #266, something Englehart will rectify later in this series.
It's also funny how Magneto's reformation doesn't make him talk any nicer to the Toad.
The Toad is stopped thanks to Quicksilver changing costumes with his duplicate..
...and Magneto asks the Vison and Quicksilver not to tell the Scarlet Witch about this, because he intends to earn her acceptance and thinks that taking advantage of this attack would be too demeaning. Or something. I find his reasoning a little unclear.
This should really be a monumental moment for Magneto, but it's marred by clunky dialogue and Howell's equally clunky art...
...and more importantly it doesn't seem Chris Claremont had any interest in developing out Magneto's relationship with his children, so none of this impacts the character in X-Men or New Mutants.
Quality Rating: C-
Chronological Placement Considerations: Magneto says that the New Mutants wanted to visit Power Pack for Thanksgiving, leaving him alone. Considering they didn't show up at Power Pack's party in PP #19 and didn't even know Power Pack yet, Magneto probably misheard them or got it confused with where Kitty Pryde and Wolverine were going. Englehart possibly had this mixed up with Power Pack #20, which takes place at Christmas, since both this issue and PP #20 had a Mar cover date while Power Pack's Thanksgiving issue was published the previous month. The Avengers have to appear here after Sub-Mariner joins the team in Avengers #262.
Continuity Insert? N
My Reprint: N/A
Inbound References (9): show
Your comment about Claremont not being interested in Magneto's relationship with his children brings up a point Roger Stern once mentioned. He intended to include Magneto in his early run of the Avengers with Quicksilver looking for him, but he was shot down because the X-Men editor "owned" that character. I would have loved to have seen Stern's take on the character and his interaction with Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.
Posted by: Chris | October 15, 2013 12:47 AM
Posted by: fnord12 | October 15, 2013 1:15 PM
I love Magneto showing up for Thanksgiving saying "Men call me -- Magneto!" I might have to try that this November.
Posted by: S | October 15, 2013 1:33 PM
A post-Sienkiewicz, pre-Simonson issue of New Mutants did show a signed picture of Wanda on Magneto's desk.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | October 15, 2013 6:08 PM
Kinda jerky of Cap to refer to the "main" members of the Invaders. Even when they're not present, Cap makes Bucky and Toro sit at the kids' table.
Posted by: Jay Patrick | October 16, 2013 4:06 PM
As a kid and even now, I thought the Vision and Scarlet Witch being married was weird.
Imagine my surprise when I found out Wanda was pregnant!
Given the fact that Magneto has tried to kill just ever hero in that room, I'd say their reaction was mild.
Posted by: A.Lloyd | March 4, 2014 2:36 PM
Hmmm, I guess the Wasp would prefer to think about events from Avengers #53 and not about the quality time she and Magneto shared in Secret Wars. ;)
Regarding the first panel here "Men call me--Magneto!", this is Englehart and Howell's tribute to the last page of X-Men #17. Check out fnord12's entry for that issue:
Posted by: Shar | October 7, 2014 3:29 PM
Ah, I now see you'd already mentioned the Wasp-Mags Secret Wars connection in your commentary, fnord. Sorry!
Posted by: Shar | October 9, 2014 10:41 AM
Oh i thought you just meant she *preferred* to think about the other issue. If you hadn't said anything i would have never known you weren't reading my fabulous commentary.
Thanks for pointing out the Magneto dialogue, by the way. Interesting in light of Englehart's re-use of old FF dialogue at the end of his FF run (e.g. Fantastic Four #329), and maybe shows that he didn't only do it for satirical reasons.
Posted by: fnord12 | October 9, 2014 11:37 AM
LOL, that's what I get for trying to sneak in visits to this site during work ;) -- I rushed through it and focused on your bulleted note about Avg #53.
Your commentary is indeed fabulous and is what separates this site from other purportedly similar sites.
Posted by: Shar | October 9, 2014 1:16 PM
Namor's second reason for being mad at Magneto seems somewhat petty compared to his first.
Posted by: Red Comet | July 10, 2015 8:19 PM
"Men call me Magneto!" snicker.
Why did it take to long to give him a real name?
Posted by: Jon Dubya | July 10, 2015 9:36 PM
It's nice to know that the characters in the Marvel universe have family get-togethers during the holidays that are just as awkward & uncomfortable as people do in real life.
"Men call me -- Magneto!"
I'm not sure I want to know what women call him :)
Posted by: Ben Herman | March 6, 2016 8:09 PM
Ben, PAD used the joke with the Foreigner in Spectacular Spider-Man 117.
Posted by: Michael | March 6, 2016 8:30 PM
I'm a little disappointed that the X-Men: First Class movie didn't use that classic line when Mags rolled out his villain identity at the very end, instead of "I prefer Magneto."
Posted by: Mortificator | March 7, 2016 4:20 AM
And Fred Hembeck used that joke with the Watcher in 1982's Fantastic Four Roast.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | March 7, 2016 10:57 AM
Hembeck *and* PAD? Well, at least I'm in good company with my bad jokes :)
Posted by: Ben Herman | March 7, 2016 2:40 PM
Magneto looks like Vinnie Colleta in that introductory panel
Posted by: Wis | December 10, 2016 10:05 PM
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