Vin the Comics Guy:
Vin the Comics Guy:
Vin the Comics Guy:
This page is a roughly formatted list of all the books that are not in my project, but should be. I've divided it into three sections: one for books that would be placed (approximately) in the year of publication, one for significant stories that take place in the period between Marvel Comics #1 and Fantastic Four #1 (since i don't expect to ever include every Golden Age book, i'm only listing "significant" stories here) and one for continuity inserts.
Please note that this page only covers books that would fall into the current years covered by my project, so check the main page to see what year i am up to. And also check the Out of Scope page.
Comments are enabled for this page, but please keep them mainly to adding to this list. FYI, my priority for the foreseeable future is adding new years to the project instead of filling in these gaps. And again, please check the Out of Scope page and the list at MCP before asking if i consider something canon. It's also not super necessary to list books from regular series where a single issue is a continuity insert (e.g. the issues of Alias showing a young Jessica Jones, or Deadpool's various jokey retcon appearances). I'll address those when i get there.
Issues listed in orange indicate to me that i actually own the issue (acquired after the latest back issue add). This is just for my own tracking; doesn't necessarily indicate that i'm going to add it to the project soon.
Realtime publication books - post FF #1
Best of Marvel Comics #1 - Wolverine story
Children of the Voyager (1993 Marvel UK Frontier) - made canon by a late era Marvel handbook but doesn't otherwise seem to have anything to do with the Marvel universe
Creatures on the Loose #31-37 (Man-Wolf)
Crypt of Shadows #5 - reprint from Menace #10 updated to include a reference from Hydra
Daredevil #1 (i do have the Man Without Fear mini that serves as a proxy, albeit one of questionable canonocity), Daredevil #162
Dances With Demons(1993 Marvel UK Frontier) - made canon by a late era Marvel handbook but doesn't otherwise seem to have anything to do with the Marvel universe
Deadly Hands of Kung-Fu #2-30
Dracula Lives #10, Dracula Lives #11 (missing Lilith stories only)
Guardians of the Galaxy #35-60 - technically relevant because present day character Yellowjacket goes into the future
Howard the Duck Magazine #1-4,6-9
Hulk Magazine #1-10,12,13-19,21-22,24-27
Human Fly #3-7,10-14,16-17 (basically every issue that didn't have a guest star!)
Legion of Monsters (1975) #1 (missing Manphibian story only)
Marvel Age annual #4 - contains a few short promo stories
Marvel Frontier Comics Special - 1994 Anthology (Mortigan Goth story takes place before the Mortigan Goth series)
Marvel Graphic Novel #31 (Wolfpack)
Marvel Holiday Special - 1991
Marvel Comics Super Special #1 (Kiss issue vs. Dr. Doom with lots of guest stars)
Marvel Preview #10 (Thor), Marvel Preview #12 (Lilith, Dracula, Gilgamesh?), Marvel Preview #16 (Lilith)
Marvel Spotlight #28 (1971) (Moon Knight)
Marvel Super-Heroes #19 (contains a new Ka-Zar solo story), Marvel Super-Heroes #23 (contains a Watcher story).
Marvel Treasury Edition #13 (short Christmas FF/Spidey/Avengers story by Roger Stern), Marvel Treasury Edition #24 (short Hercules story by Mary Jo Duffy), Marvel Treasury Edition #27 (5-page Angel story by Scott Edelman/Brent Anderson/Bob McLeod)
Master of Kung Fu #64-76, Master of Kung Fu #80-82, Master of Kung Fu #84-104, Master of Kung Fu #107-116
Meet Misty #1-6 (1985) - It's part of the Star imprint, but Misty is Millie the Model's niece, and if Millie is canon...
Micronauts #13, Micronauts #18-22, Micronauts #44-58
Monsters Unleashed #3 (missing Man-Thing story), Monsters Unleashed #6-7 (missing Werewolf By Night text piece), Monsters Unleashed #9 (missing Wendigo story), Monsters Unleashed #10 (missing Tigra story)
Moon Knight #14-28, Moon Knight #31-32, Moon Knight #37-38 (1980)
Not Brand Echh - a few stories are possibly considered canon. She-Hulk #35 features the Keeper of the Comics Code from Not Brand Echh #5 and Not Brand Echh #8 & #12 possibly have some straight Avengers stories.
Obnoxio the Clown #1 (determined by a late era handbook to be canon)
Red Wolf #7, Red Wolf #9 - features a modern Red Wolf (Thomas Thunderhead), unlike issues #1-6.
Saga of Crystar #1-11
Savage Tales Magazine #7-11 (possibly more)
Shogun Warriors #2-11, Shogun Warriors #15, Shogun Warriors #17-18
Silver Surfer: The Enslavers (Stan Lee/Keith Pollard; of questionable canonocity)
Sub-Mariner #38 (mostly an origin retelling)
Tales to Astonish #77 (1959) - missing Sub-Mariner half
Tales to Astonish #12 (Vision), #13 (Nighthawk) (1979 series)
Tomb of Dracula Magazine #3, Tomb of Dracula Magazine #6 (missing Lilith stories only; #3 is a text piece)
What If - generally speaking, any issue featuring narration by the Watcher is technically in scope because the Watcher is an in-universe Marvel character (and sometimes other "real" characters appear as well). But covering these won't be a priority. Issues #29-30 of the original series feature Untold Tales of the Marvel universe back-ups that take place post Marvel Comics #1, so they are in scope even beyond the Watcher's narration.
Wolfpack #1-12 (1988-1989)
Below is a list of books that were put out as PSAs or as advertising promos for charities or as product giveaways. The ones listed have been confirmed as canon by late era Marvel handbooks. Most likely i'll never cover these but per the handbooks they are officially canon.
Bubble Funnies Mini Comics (1981) (#3 only is canon?)
Realtime publication books - significant pre-FF #1 books
There are a lot of Golden Age books i don't have, including steady runs of Captain America, Sub-Mariner, and (GA) Human Torch. I don't think i'll ever add them all and it's not really a focus. Below are some significant issues that i'd like to add along with a list of characters that i'd like to see represented better (or at all). Note that some of these books technically spill into the Silver Age and some are of questionable continuity (e.g. Patsy Walker, whose books are later said to be in-universe comics).
All-Winners #21 (missing half; reprinted in Marvel Super-Heroes #18)
Appearances of: Blonde Phantom, Golden Girl, Jimmy Jupiter, John Steele, Kent Blake, Millie the Model, Patsy Walker, Sun Girl, Miss America, Blue Diamond
Adventures of Captain America - 1991-1992 Fabian Nicieza/Kevin Maguire expanded Cap origin of questionable canonocity
Amazing Spider-Man #1.1-1.5 - 2014 "Learning To Crawl" story by Dan Slott and Ramon Perez
Amazing Spider-Man Family #1 - 2008 anthology. First story in issue #1 takes place in the first 48 hours after Amazing Fantasy #15
Angel: Revelations #1-5 (2008)
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes - 2 separate 8 issue mini-series by Joe Casey from 2005 and 2006-2007.
Avengers: The Origin #1-5 (2010) - Joe Casey & Phil Noto
Avengers 1959 - 2011 Howard Chaykin 5 issue mini.
Before the FF books (i actually have Reed Richards but it has a modern day framing sequence, not sure if that's true of the others).
Captain America: Man Out of Time - 2010 Mark Waid mini.
Captain America: Patriot #1-4 - 2010 Karl Kesel/Mitchell Breitweiser
Captain America: Theater of War - Operation Zero Point - 2008 one-shot by the Knaufs & Mitch Breitweiser.
Captain America: the Medusa Effect - 1994 Roy Thomas/Rich Buckler & M.C. Wyman graphic novel; takes place in 1943
Capt. Savage and his Leatherneck Raiders - #5-19 (1968-1970)
Combat Kelly and the Deadly Dozen #1-9 (1972-1973)
Deadpool Team-Up #1 (1998)
Deadpool vs. X-Force (2014)
Fantastic Four The World's Greatest Comic Magazine - 2001 Erik Larsen series
Fantastic Four: First Family - 2006 Joe Casey/Chris Weston 6 issue series
First X-Men - 2012-2013 Christos Gage/Neal Adams 5 issue mini
Flashback/-1 issues. I have more than are shown on this site but i'm under the impression that some have modern day framing sequences so they aren't included yet. Will make that call when i get to 1997.
Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin - 2007 Joe Casey mini
Logan: Shadow Society - 1996 Howard Mackie oneshot
Logan: Path of the Warlord - 1996 Howard Mackie oneshot
Marvel Heroes & Legends 1996 - Phil Sheldon at Mr. Fantastic & Invisible Girl's wedding
Marvel Team-Up #19 (Jun 06) - Takes place after New Mutants #100 but before Iron Man #275.
Mystic Hands of Dr. Strange - 2010 b&w oneshot
'Nam 67,69 (Punisher)
Emma Frost #1-18 - 2003-2005 Karl Bollers series
Rampaging Hulk #2-6 - 1998 series
Savage Hulk #5-6 - 2014-2015 Crossroads story
Special Edition X-Men #1 - 1983 Kitty Pryde back-up story
Spider-Man Family: Amazing Friends - 2006 oneshot by Sean McKeever & Pat Olliffe
Spider-Man / Human Torch #1-5 - 2005 Dan Slot/Ty Templeton mini
Spider-Man: Death and Destiny #1-3 - 2000 Lee Weeks
Spider-Man: With Great Power #1-5 - 2008 David Lapham & Tony Harris
Sgt. Fury & His Howling Commandos - missing most outside of first 23 issues.
Thor: Blood Oath #1-6 - 2005-2006 Oeming/Kolins
Uncanny Origins - 1996 series retelling origins of some popular characters and Firelord. Judging from the MCP there is some new material included in these books, but it's unlikely i'll be adding them any time soon.
Untold Legend of Captain Marvel #1-2
War Is Hell - Issues #10-15 (John Kowalski/Death)
Webspinners: Tales of Spider-Man - entire series; will add when i get to publication year
X-Men/Alpha Flight - 1998 Ben Raab/John Cassaday 2 issue series
X-Men: Gold - 2014 anthology book with stories from various periods
X-Men Origins (2008) - all but Iceman
X-Men vs Hulk - 2009 Chris Claremont one shot
In Marvel Tresaury Edition 27 the story by Brent Anderson is about the X-Men's Angel, not the Golden Age one
Posted by: Midnighter | August 21, 2013 6:28 PM
Thanks Midnighter. The UHBMCC listed it as featuring Angel (GA). Updated my list to remove that.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 21, 2013 6:43 PM
Peter Parker the Spectacular Spider-Man Annual 2 is missing- that's the one that causes confusion about why Silvermane was crippled in Spectacular Spider-Man 69-70.
Posted by: Michael | August 21, 2013 7:55 PM
Thanks, Michael. Added all but Wonder Man to the list, since i did have it stuck in my 1986 pile.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 22, 2013 7:30 AM
Actually, Kent Blake Of Secret Service, 14 issues by Atlas in the 50's, should be included, because the character is also in Amazing Spider-Man Annual 13. It's a bunch of anti-commies war and spy stories, interiesting from a storical perspective but quite boring to read, even if canon.
Posted by: Midnighter | August 24, 2013 9:13 AM
Thanks, Midnighter. I should have put in a note saying that i'm not going to list every Golden Age (or rather, post-Marvel Comics #1 - pre-FF #1) book that i'm missing, since that would be a huge list. I have created a new section for "significant" Golden Age books that are missing, and i define "significant" very generously to include Kent Blake (since his ghost appears in that ASM annual, i'd love to have at least one issue of his series) and the Warlord Kaa.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 24, 2013 2:08 PM
Most of Giant-Size Defenders #1 is reprint; the only new part is the framing sequence by Isabella & Starlin.
Spectacular Spider-Man #1 also had a new backup story that didn't get reprinted until more than 35 years later. The full-length #2 is also more coherent than the reprint in ASM Annual#9; you'd be better off getting the hardcover reprint of both magazines(the advertised story for Spec. #3 still has never been published).
MTU#28 was later explained as Hercules' drunken boasting, so it may not be in continuity.
Giant Size Spider-Man #5 ties in with ASM much more than #2 and #3, but reproduction of it and of Giant-Size Super-Heroes#1 in Essential ASM is, for some weird reason, utterly horrible. You're better off with the originals in those cases.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | August 24, 2013 3:19 PM
You left off the post-Gerber Howard the Duck issues.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | August 24, 2013 3:37 PM
Thanks Mark. Made a couple of updates.
Marvel Team-Up #28 is referenced in a few other books and it's part of the "They" saga, so it's definitely in continuity. But in any event i have that issue; listing it here was a mistake.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 24, 2013 5:40 PM
You're also missing MTIO #28.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | August 31, 2013 1:35 PM
Thanks, Mark. I probably mixed up MTU #28 with MTIO #28 when i was making this list.
Posted by: fnord12 | September 1, 2013 9:20 AM
So, apparently in the KISS Marvel Comics Super Special, the band fights Doctor Doom ( http://www.cracked.com/article_19715_the-5-most-insane-celebrity-cameos-in-comic-books.html?wa_user1=3&wa_user2=Weird+World&wa_user3=article&wa_ ). I'm guessing that's not actually in continuity, though, like a DC crossover.
Posted by: Erik Robbins | September 5, 2013 4:06 PM
Does KISS appear in HOWARD THE DUCK at some point or does Howard appear in a KISS special? If they appear in Howard's book, that's a good argument for all their appearances being canonical (though HOWARD had many elements that I'm sure some folks wish they could erase from continuity... I'm looking at you, Space Turnip).
Posted by: Jay Patrick | September 5, 2013 5:05 PM
The MCP does list Marvel Super-Special #1 as being in continuity. It has a lot of guest appearances. It's kind of covered on this list in the "most magazines" category but i will list it specifically.
The Kiss appearance in Howard the Duck #12-13 is really a demonic illusion.
Posted by: fnord12 | September 5, 2013 5:23 PM
Spider-Man: With Great Power, is a miniseries set between the pages of Amazing Fantasy #15... I believe part of Astonishing Spider-Man & Wolverine #3 (part of a 4 part series) is too, due to time travel.
Posted by: Max_Spider | September 5, 2013 7:40 PM
I've added With Great Power. It sounds like Astonishing... is something i would place where it falls in the chronology of the time traveling characters (i.e., the modern Spider-Man and Wolverine).
Posted by: fnord12 | September 5, 2013 10:38 PM
You are missing Marvel Treasury Edition #13 (1976) "Giant Superhero Holiday Grab-Bag" which has 4 reprinted flashback stories with a framing story of new, Christmas-related material. I picked it up for the Champions appearance there which the MCP has placed between Champions #10 & 11.
Posted by: Jay Demetrick | September 20, 2013 12:24 AM
Oh wait, I just spotted it! Never mind...! lol!
Posted by: Jay Demetrick | September 20, 2013 12:25 AM
Why is Web of Spider-Man Annual 2 on the "What's Missing" list? It was published in 1986. And it's not clearly intended to take place years ago- it features Warlock, who debuted in 1984.
Posted by: Michael | October 6, 2013 1:36 PM
I recently added that and Howard the Duck #33 because they are two books i didn't pick up in time for 1986 (at least so far).
Posted by: fnord12 | October 6, 2013 2:19 PM
X-Men:Gold 1 came out today, and a few of the stories take place in the 1963-1986 timeframe.
Posted by: Michael | November 13, 2013 8:35 PM
Thanks Michael. Added it.
Also an update that the 1986 Howard the Duck issues and Web of Spider-Man Annual #2 have been removed from this list since i've been able to pick them up.
Posted by: fnord12 | November 14, 2013 10:49 AM
How many "stories" (really moments) are they going to shoehorn in to Giant Size X-Men #1?
Posted by: ChrisKafka | November 14, 2013 7:39 PM
Marvel Fanfare 16 and 17 are missing. Marvel Fanfare 16 features a Namor story and Marvel Fanfare 17 features a Hulk story. In addition, the Sky Wolves story in those issues is meant to be canon- the Sidney Levine that appears is supposed to be the agent of SHIELD. Marvel Fanfare 24 is also missing-the second story is a Carol Danvers story that takes place circa Uncanny X-Men 175 where she meets Monica Rambeau for the first time.
Posted by: Michael | November 17, 2013 5:42 PM
What about the Eternals maxi-series cover-dated October 1985 - September 1986?
Posted by: CLYDE | November 17, 2013 5:45 PM
Clyde, the Eternals series is coming soon in 1986.
Posted by: fnord12 | November 17, 2013 6:10 PM
Just a note about Marvel Fanfare 24-26 by the way- the first story in each of the issues is a Weirdworld story, not a Marvel universe story, and the second story is a Marvel Universe story- the aforementioned Carol Danvers story, a Captain Universe story and a Captain America story.
Posted by: Michael | November 17, 2013 7:54 PM
Are you covering PPTSSM annual #6 with Ace and ASM annual #20 with Iron Man 2020 in 1986?
Posted by: clyde | January 19, 2014 1:11 AM
Posted by: fnord12 | January 19, 2014 10:23 AM
The 2nd Kiss Marvel Super Special also contains elves that may or may not be the same type as the Defenders elf/elves, so that could be canon as well.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | January 25, 2014 11:57 PM
The Emma Frost series from 2003-2005 is a continuity implant taking place after Emma developed her powers but before she joined the Hellfire Club. (Good luck trying to figure out how it fits in with Generation X -1.)
Posted by: Michael | February 3, 2014 7:51 PM
Posted by: fnord12 | February 4, 2014 1:31 PM
What numbers of the Marvel Fanfare (other than the ones listed up top) are you planning to cover?
Posted by: clyde | February 4, 2014 2:29 PM
I intend to cover them all and i do believe i own the rest of the series (second volume, too). If i've missed any i will list them here when it becomes apparent. With Fanfare and Graphic Novels and similar items, it's possible i'll cover them for the year that they should be placed in, especially if i see references to those issues in other books or if people mention it in the comments. Otherwise i'll cover them as Pushback items when i get to the publication year.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 4, 2014 4:23 PM
The Emma Frost series lasted 18 issues, not 6.
Posted by: Michael | February 4, 2014 8:33 PM
Thanks again, Michael. I don't know why i wrote 6; the reason i didn't list an artist was because i saw that it changed over the course of the 18 issues.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 4, 2014 9:03 PM
I just noticed on mycomicshop a one-shot called: Obnoxio the clown vs. the X-Men. Is this an in-universe appearance? I know it seems stupid, but I was just curious.
Posted by: clyde | February 13, 2014 3:43 PM
Obnoxio the Clown was Marvel's mascot for their Crazy magazine. That issue is a joke one-shot and isn't considered canon.
The MCP has a list of out of scope books that i follow as well: http://www.chronologyproject.com/faq.php#Q15
Posted by: fnord12 | February 13, 2014 5:01 PM
Just looked through and noticed you left out Strange Tales 135: the first of the "Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD" that wasn't in your collection. (when it replaced the "what the heck were they thinking" Human Torch feature)
Posted by: Ataru320 | February 16, 2014 10:58 AM
I do have Strange Tales #135 (Nick Fury). It wasn't included in those Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD reprints, but i was able to add it to the project later.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 16, 2014 11:34 AM
If memory (and a little bit of internet searching) serves me correctly, Quasar #1 was a continuity insert without a modern framing sequence, taking place prior to the character's introduction in Captain America. (I think Quasar #2&3 also took place before their published time, but just earlier in the same year, instead of over a decade previous.)
Posted by: Erik Robbins | February 23, 2014 1:51 AM
Thanks Erik, looks like you are right. I've added it under continuity inserts although (in my own mind at least) i'm not too far away from getting to it when i reach 1988.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 23, 2014 9:07 PM
Logan: Shadow Society and Logan: Path of the Warlord are continuity implants featuring Wolverine. Shadow Society takes place a few years before the Modern Era (since Carol Danvers is a secret agent) and Path of the Warlord takes place "after the war", presumably World War II. They're by Howard Mackie, though, so you might NOT want to get them.
Posted by: Michael | February 25, 2014 7:52 PM
Listed the Logan books. Thanks, Michael.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 26, 2014 7:22 PM
I don't see Special Edition X-Men #1 in 1983. The first half is a reprint of Giant Size X-Men #1 but there is a secondary story called "A Day Like Any Other" about Kitty turning 14, which I think takes place sometime shortly before Marvel Graphic Novel 5 "X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills"?
Posted by: Jay Demetrick | March 9, 2014 12:38 AM
Thanks, Jay. Listed it. Actually, i put it under Continuity Inserts but that may not technically be correct since it came out in 1983 and you say it takes place circa God Loves, Man Kills.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 9, 2014 10:04 AM
I'm not seeing X-Men:Children of the Atom, 6-issue mini-series by Joe Casey, listed anywhere.
Posted by: ChrisKafka | April 9, 2014 1:02 AM
Children of the Atom is not considered canon by the MCP, precisely because it conflicts with the backup stories.
Posted by: Michael | April 9, 2014 7:53 AM
I don't know if there's an "official" statement on this, but it seems like it's not in continuity. The MCP has a "Children of the Atom" listed on its Non-Canon list:
Edit: Cross-commented with Michael.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 9, 2014 7:53 AM
Also Daredevil: Man Without Fear isn't canon for MCP, basically because it conflicts with the death of Jack Murdock as told in Daredevil 1 (and everywhere else). In Miller's story, he die before Matt goes to the college and meet Foggy, so it cannot be canon.
Posted by: Midnighter | April 9, 2014 9:25 AM
In 1987 came out a Best Of Marvel Comics, a reprint book with a 6 page new story of Wolverine, by Claremont & Rogers.
Will you review this short story?
Posted by: Midnighter | April 19, 2014 10:25 AM
I don't own that, so i won't be covering it here, at least yet. I've added it to the What's Missing list. I've seen that Claremont described it as a Wolverine primer, so i don't think we're missing much of a story.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 19, 2014 4:35 PM
For some reason Marvel thought enough of it to reprint it in the 1991 hardcover "Marvel: 50 Fabulous Years" alongside "This Man This Monster", Amazing Spider-Man 2, and some random 50s Sub-Mariner story.
Posted by: S | April 20, 2014 1:34 AM
So you couldn't get ahold of the Wolfpack Graphic Novel? Are you going to add it to the list of What's Missing?
Posted by: Michael | April 22, 2014 8:59 PM
Yeah, i have to admit i didn't look for it, but i added it to the list above. ;-)
Posted by: fnord12 | April 22, 2014 9:07 PM
I did a word search so correct me if I'm wrong on this but I don't see Thor annual 4 anywhere. It was pretty interesting to read, maybe not the best continuity if I think about it too much, Greek Gods vs. Norse Gods have a war with both sides seemingly winning but not really.
Again if I thought about it too hard continuity wouldn't work but it was an early attempt to explain Gods and how they co-exist with different religions and patherons. Neither could destroy the other straight out since people believed in them so there was no plundering to be had.
Posted by: david banes | April 22, 2014 9:59 PM
Thor annual #4 was all reprints, but i think you mean Thor annual #5 which is listed on the Out of scope page. It takes place prior to Marvel Comics #1.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 22, 2014 10:13 PM
Your collection is quite extensive! For the period you already covered, it seems you got pretty much all the "main" series as good as complete, save perhaps for some early Daredevil. I was wondering though... up to when does your collection remain so complete? The reviews on your blog suggest you're not buying everything Marvel puts out now, so when did you think "this is just to much/to crappy"?
Posted by: Berend | June 17, 2014 9:20 PM
I took advantage of the late 90s market crash and got a lot of stuff in 10 for $1 and 4 for $1 bins. And nowadays with online stores you can get a lot of stuff from the late 80s and 90s pretty cheap, too. When i start a new year now i do a little shopping and i'll buy anything for about a dollar. That may not scale when i get to later years since the print runs are different. But the plan is definitely to keep filling in the stuff i skipped in realtime when feasible.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 17, 2014 10:10 PM
There was a 5 issue mini series that came out about two years ago called 'the first x-men' (probably because of first class) it takes place while Manor has no memories.
Posted by: Silverbird | June 17, 2014 10:41 PM
Posted by: Silverbird | June 17, 2014 10:43 PM
Thanks Silverbird. The Neal Adams/Christos Gage series. I've added it to the list.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 18, 2014 12:14 PM
That brings to mind the X-Men: First Class series from 2006.
Posted by: Erik Robbins | June 19, 2014 12:51 PM
There's considerable dispute about whether or not First Class is canon. One issue was referenced in X-Men/ Agents of Atlas but Marvel told the Handbook editors to stop referring to it in the handbooks. Some of the First Class stories have minor problems (like Kitty referring to Scott's lover as Jean at a time when it was Maddie) that can easily be explained but others have major problems (like Natasha working for SHIELD before Avengers 16.)
Posted by: Michael | June 19, 2014 7:49 PM
Fnord, Solo Avengers 12-13 were cover-dated 1988 and the second story in issue 12 takes place before Avengers Annual 17. But they haven't been included in 1988.
Posted by: Michael | August 10, 2014 11:28 PM
For 1988 continuity inserts, there's Quasar #3, which I believe takes place prior to Quasar's re-appearance in Avengers 301-303. Which places it before Inferno, since Human Torch was nova-flamed between Inferno & Reed's return to the FF (which is a problem for 302-303). And Quasar #2 takes place sometime before that. I'm guessing that you will take the same position you did for Quasar #1 (waiting for publication date to place it since you are close to reaching that time period anyway), but since you asked, I thought I'd point it out.
Posted by: Erik Robbins | August 11, 2014 1:36 AM
The Quasar issues i'll definitely cover as pushbacks when i get into 1989.
Cloak's MCP #9 and Judgement Day i am holding off on deliberately, as surmised.
For the back-up Solo Avengers stories, i'll cover them when i get to the main Hawkeye parts. I've held off on them for now because i'm waiting to see how placement of WCA #40 and #41 needs to play out.
Saga of the Sub-Mariner i've added to the What's Missing list above. I actually have this but i keep it in with my Handbooks and stuff. I don't know that it would be a very interesting review. Yes, there's a framing sequence, but it would be like one sentence of review followed by 200 References.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 11, 2014 8:06 AM
I don't know- you might want to review Saga of the Sub-Mariner to see how Roy reconciles some of the odder elements of Namor's history. (Saga is what started again the whole "Namor's a mutant" thing.)
Posted by: Michael | August 11, 2014 7:41 PM
Before you start the 1990, note that the recent Deadpool Bi-Annual put in continuity the Brute Force, a sort of squad of Animal Superheroes that starred in a 4 issues series by Simon Furman and Jose Delbo in 1990.
Posted by: Midnighter | August 29, 2014 5:34 AM
Thanks, Midnighter. I see the Appendix has an entry for them and they have an interesting history. And it's by Simon Furman! I don't own any of these but i'll keep an eye out in the bargain bins or i'll list them here if i don't have them when i get to 1990.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 29, 2014 7:30 AM
Thor:Blood Oath is a limited series that is supposed to take place in Thor's Journey into Mystery days after Thor first encountered the Absorbing Man but before Jane Foster left. (I say "supposed to" because your head will explode trying to fit it in.)
Posted by: Michael | September 7, 2014 9:07 AM
Thanks, Michael. Listed it.
Posted by: fnord12 | September 7, 2014 10:01 AM
Amazing Spider-Man #692 has a story set during Amazing Spider-Man #50.
Posted by: Max_Spider | September 24, 2014 6:59 PM
Thanks, Max_Spider. I see that issue has an 8 page story and a 22 page story. If it's just the 8 page story, i generally don't list short stories here until/unless i get to the year it was published. Otherwise the list will get insanely long with back-ups from annuals, Marvel Comics Presents, Marvel Super Heroes specials, Marvel Fanfares, etc..
Also i'm sure you know if it's got a framing sequence or if it's a time travel sequence i'll place it in the current year, but i assume that's not the case for this one.
Posted by: fnord12 | September 24, 2014 8:53 PM
Maybe I've missed it, but I don't see the UK series Marvel Super Heroes prior to #386 on here, even though you mention in your review of Marvel Super Heroes #387-388 (UK)//Daredevils #1-11//Mighty World of Marvel #7-13 that your trade starts with the story already in progress. Or was there some sort of renaming/renumbering done and is the series on this list under a different name?
Posted by: Berend | September 29, 2014 9:03 AM
Just did a bit of research, this is what the Wiki says for "Captain Britain":
Chris Claremont left the series after just ten issues, midway through the "Doctor Synne" storyline, and has since stated that this was because his view of the character and series was very different from that of the editor. In 1978, though, Chris Claremont revisited the character and introduced him to an international audience, fully integrating him into the Marvel Universe via a story that starred Captain Britain and Spider-Man in Marvel's long-running Marvel Team-Up series.
During this run, the series moved from Marvel Superheroes into a new monthly comic, The Daredevils. When The Daredevils was canceled after eleven issues Captain Britain was continued in The Mighty World of Marvel - and then, after the end of the run of Alan Moore, who left because of a dispute over unpaid invoices, it continued for a few more issues with different writers (Steve Craddock, Alan Davis, and Mike Collins) until the comics ended  and the story moved to a new monthly Captain Britain title with Jamie Delano taking over writing duties on the recommendation of Moore and with the agreement of Davis.
With that said, my guess is the "Marvel Super Heroes" anthology book doesn't really matter outside the "Jasper's Warp" stuff and he already has all the Captain Britain that he needs to get us between the character introduction and Alan Moore's period.
Posted by: Ataru320 | September 29, 2014 10:56 AM
Thanks for looking into that, Ataru. I was originally hoping that my two new Captain Britain trades would cover everything i was missing. But it turns out that Marvel Super Heroes #377-386 are the first part of the story that Berend references and they're not in those trades or the Alan Moore trade. They were reprinted in the first issue and a half of "X-Men Archives featuring Captain Britain", though, so i'll try to track those down, and i'll definitely list them here on the What's Missing page in the meantime. Thanks for raising this, Berend.
Posted by: fnord12 | September 29, 2014 11:48 AM
Fnord, Marvel Fanfare 44 is missing.
Posted by: Michael | November 13, 2014 7:58 PM
I believe that takes place after Armor Wars but also after Doom is back in Latveria, so i will have to sit on it for a while.
Posted by: fnord12 | November 13, 2014 9:27 PM
There are two pages of "straight" Avengers by Thomas/Buscema in the otherwise parody title Not Brand Ecch #8. I don't know if they're considered canon because of that, but there's nothing in them that contradicts anything.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | December 13, 2014 2:07 PM
Is it definitely #8 and not #12? I see that the MCP list stories from Not Brand Echh #5 and Not Brand Echh #12 in their project. #5 contains "Keeper of the Comics Code" who appears again in a She-Hulk issue. And #12 seems to contain a straight Avengers story. Either way, i've just listed the series on this page with some notes, so thanks.
Posted by: fnord12 | December 13, 2014 2:52 PM
It probably is #12--I haven't looked at the issues in a while, so I probably have the number wrong. I do remember that the Keeper shows up on the last page of a Hulk Vs. Thing parody story, so unless the Keeper had universe-crossing power I'm not sure if that story would count.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | December 13, 2014 2:58 PM
Marvel Premiere 59 has a backup story featuring Werewolf By Night. (The main story is Dr.Who and therefore not in your project.)
Posted by: Michael | December 26, 2014 2:46 PM
Are you positive it's WBNight in there? I bought those Dr. Who issues when they first came out and the only backup I recall is a K9 story(also a reprint).
Posted by: Mark Drummond | December 26, 2014 8:00 PM
I don't have it in front of me but the GCD,comicvine and Marvel Appendix all claim that there's a new WBNight story in there.
Posted by: Michael | December 26, 2014 9:03 PM
I checked my copy of Marvel Premiere 59 and yup, there's a 4-page Werewolf By Night backup.
Posted by: Robert | December 27, 2014 12:21 AM
Thanks all. Added it to the list. UHBMCC lists Steven Grant & Winslow Mortimer as the creators, and it's the issue after the K-9 back-up reprint, for what that's worth.
Posted by: fnord12 | December 27, 2014 1:18 AM
Re Not Brand Echh:
Anyway, the team shown consists of the Wasp, the Black Panther, the Vision, plus Hank Pym as Goliath and Clint as Hawkeye, so it likely takes place after Avengers #58 when the Vision joins the team and probably before #59 when Hank becomes Yellowjacket. Or perhaps after #60, YJ and Wasp's wedding--but before #61 when Hank and Jan are away on their honeymoon (and maybe before he's decided to keep the YJ costume/identity).
Here's a link to the story:
Posted by: Shar | December 28, 2014 1:56 PM
Savage Hulk 1-6 feature stories from the Hulk's past.
Posted by: Michael | December 30, 2014 7:49 PM
Thanks, Michael. I've actually got the Alan Davis story and i guess i can add it to the current backissue add. I was waiting until the series ended before i listed it here but i see it's over now. In which case i kind of regret not getting the second story; i was kind of tempted by the fact that it took place during the Crossroads period.
Shar, thanks for that link. Looks like there's no hurry in adding that issue to my project, but it's a goofy fun story.
Posted by: fnord12 | December 31, 2014 11:19 AM
Given that Avengers:EMH and Iron Man: Enter the Mandarin is on this list, are there any reasons why the similar project Fantastic Four: First Famiy is not?
Posted by: entzauberung | January 5, 2015 11:21 AM
Just wasn't aware of it. Thanks, entzauberung. I've added it, assuming the entire series takes place in the past and there's no modern day framing sequence.
Posted by: fnord12 | January 5, 2015 3:45 PM
As far as I remember, it takes place entirely somewhere during FF #1,
Posted by: entzauberung | January 5, 2015 7:38 PM
Strange Tales 172, a Brother Voodoo story, is missing.
Posted by: Michael | January 20, 2015 7:53 PM
Thanks, Michael. I've added it, but the good news is that it's included in Essential Marvel Horror vol. 2, so i can include it in the current Back Issue Add.
Posted by: fnord12 | January 20, 2015 10:06 PM
Bizarre Adventures 31 contains a Hangman story.
Posted by: Michael | January 22, 2015 9:51 PM
Thanks, Michael. Listed it.
Posted by: fnord12 | January 23, 2015 7:22 AM
The Mystic Hands of Doctor Strange features four stories- the first takes place after the Earth is recreated in Doctor Strange 13 and before Strange's encounter with Xandar in Doctor Strange 19, the fourth story takes place shortly before Strange's first encounter with Dormammu, the second story takes place "in the 1960s" and the third story- your head will explode trying to figure out when the third story takes place.
Posted by: Michael | January 24, 2015 7:14 PM
Listed it. Thanks.
Posted by: fnord12 | January 24, 2015 8:52 PM
Captain America: the Medusa Effect is a 1994 Graphic Novel by Roy Thomas that takes place in 1943.
Posted by: Michael | January 27, 2015 12:41 PM
Thanks Michael. Listed it.
Posted by: fnord12 | January 28, 2015 7:58 AM
The Lilith stories in Marvel Preview 16, Dracula Lives 10-11, Tomb of Dracula Magazine 3(text) and Tomb of Dracula Magazine 6 are missing.
Posted by: Michael | February 4, 2015 8:59 PM
Thanks Michael. Listed them.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 4, 2015 9:55 PM
You should list Amazing Spider-Man 1.1/1.5 and Amazing Spider-Man Family 1, stories that take place between Amazing Fantasy 15 and Amazing Spider-Man 1.
Posted by: Midnighter | February 9, 2015 8:13 AM
Thanks, Midnighter. Listed the 1.x series and ASM Family #1. Great Power was already listed.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 9, 2015 9:22 AM
The Dragon Lord story in Marvel Spotlight 5 is canon- Dragon Lord later appears in an Avengers:Initiative story.
Posted by: Michael | February 26, 2015 7:57 PM
Thanks, Michael. Any relation to Ditko's other Dragon Lord from Fantastic Four annual #16?
Posted by: fnord12 | February 26, 2015 8:15 PM
No, this is actually a redone Godzilla story:
Posted by: Michael | February 26, 2015 8:25 PM
Oh, that's awesome. Now i regret saying that after the current back issue add i'm going to go at least through the DeFalco EiC and "Silo" years before going backwards again.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 26, 2015 8:30 PM
I picked up a copy of Tower of Shadows #5 today, and was checking if anything made the lead Roy Thomas-penned story 616. Indeed it is 616; it features the first appearance of the character Jason Roland. He will reappear as a character named the Hangman in Avengers West Coast.
Posted by: cullen | March 2, 2015 1:02 AM
Thanks, Cullen. I've added it to the list.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 2, 2015 7:22 AM
The 1972 Combat Kelly and the Deadly Dozen series, which took place during World War II and crossed over with the Howling Commandos, is missing.
Posted by: Michael | March 8, 2015 12:21 PM
Thanks, Michael. I've added that. I see there was also a 1950s Combat Kelly series but according to the Appendix it was confirmed in a Sgt. Fury lettercol that they're not the same person, so i haven't added that.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 8, 2015 12:28 PM
Will you be covering the stories in the softcover Golden Age Masterworks?
Posted by: Mark Drummond | April 17, 2015 2:03 PM
I wasn't aware of them so thanks for pointing them out. I have been interested in filling out my Golden Age stuff. It seems like there's more "continuity" (of the single series variety, at least) than i was aware of. But for the couple of years i intend to just go forward and cover the 90s. I'll start looking for used copies of the softcovers, though.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 17, 2015 2:30 PM
Okay, so. We've got a miniseries called Hulk: Destruction, that looks like its supposed to expand on the Abomination's origin story. It was possibly released to tie into the Ultimate Destruction game as it had Mercy and such, but I'm in no position to tell if it is canon or not, might be worth checking out.
In a similar vein, there is Spider-Man and the Secret Wars. I've read this in the past... The first issue seems to have some dialogue revisions on the mountain scene, but the others are less of a crime. I mean, issue 3 is kind of ambiguous on how much is actually happening due to reality warping, but whatever. Might be up to interpretation.
Posted by: Max_Spider | May 25, 2015 11:12 AM
The problem with Hulk:Destruction is that there are flashbacks that contradict previous continuity- the Abomination is said to have gained his powers after Samson got his and Mercy is said to have been originally a human researcher at Gamma Base. The flashbacks have been ignored ever since. There was considerable debate at the Marvel Chronology Project about whether the whole series should be non-canon or we should just assume the flashbacks were unreliable narrator.
Posted by: Michael | May 25, 2015 12:03 PM
If you're still looking to pick up Night Nurse, they just collected the full series under a single cover:
Posted by: cullen | June 2, 2015 1:33 AM
Thanks, Cullen. Will be getting that.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 2, 2015 9:31 AM
Alias 22 and 23 are continuity inserts featuring the origin of Jessica Jones in the Silver Age. There is no framing sequence (beyond stating the time frame of the issues - "15 years ago" and "14 years ago"). (Bendis definitely was not going with the 7-years-since-FF#1 thing)
Posted by: Erik Robbins | June 14, 2015 1:36 AM
Thanks, Erik. I've added them to the listing on this page, but most likely i'll wait until i get to the publication date period before adding them.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 14, 2015 11:10 AM
Fnord, you're holding Cloak and Dagger 14-16 until 1991 because of the tie-ins with Excalibur 36 and the Infinity Gauntlet, right?
Posted by: Michael | July 27, 2015 7:57 PM
Correct on Cloak & Dagger. And i actually just didn't have the other two, so i ordered them along with my order to beef up my 1991 collection and i'll cover them soon.
Posted by: fnord12 | July 28, 2015 8:07 AM
Not sure if I should post this under "Are you gonna cover..?" in the forum or here, so pls let me know if I erred:
There's a 2011 series 'All-Winners Squad: Band of Heroes' that added more of Marvel/Timely/Atlas's golden-age characters to 616 continuity. I know at least some of it occurred in the past, but I don't know if the entire series has a framing sequence or not. It also looks like it got cut short before they could finish the story... (a fate to also befall James Robinson's Avengers, which was similarly attempting to rehabilitate forgotten Golden Age Marvels). I figure this might add a few "pre-FF" titles to your list, along with this series itself (potentially):
Posted by: cullen | September 22, 2015 7:56 PM
er, James Robinson's *Invaders*.
Posted by: cullen | September 23, 2015 2:53 AM
Looking at the MCP, it seems that All-Winners Squad: Band of Heroes has some modern day sequences (featuring Loki, Captain America, and Nick Fury). But yeah, the Golden Age character that that series and Robinson's Invaders brought in (some of which i think weren't even old Timely characters; they were just characters that had fallen into the public domain) could i guess be listed in the "Appearances of" section under Pre-FF books. I'm not sure if it's worth listing them yet since there won't be any references to them in my project for a while, but i'll definitely add them when i see the characters referenced in other books.
(And either here or the forum is fine for stuff like that. Thanks.)
Posted by: fnord12 | September 23, 2015 7:24 AM
It seems that you miss Tales of the Marvels, which were Marvels-inspired comics showing various events from civilian perspective.
Posted by: Sataniel | October 10, 2015 5:56 PM
Nevermind, I see that Tales of the Marvels: Inner Demons is here, just without series title and later than I expected.
Posted by: Sataniel | October 10, 2015 6:20 PM
The Spider-Man Family: Amazing Friends oneshot takes place after New Warriors 1 but before X-Men 1.
Posted by: Michael | December 23, 2015 8:20 AM
Thanks Michael. I've actually tried to buy this but it's been out of stock at Mycomicshop.com for a while. I've added it to this list.
Posted by: fnord12 | December 23, 2015 1:16 PM
Other good places to look for comics and TPBs are Amazon, www.ABEbooks.com, Atomic Avenue, and www.bookfinder4u.com. Amazon has a lot more old things than you'd think and a lot of times regular book dealers will look at TPBs and think "book", not "comics" so they tend to be cheaper there.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | December 24, 2015 7:50 PM
All the Star-Lord 1970s stories got their own TPB earlier this year.
All the Vampire Tales got reprinted in a strange digest size a few years ago, but the necessarily scrunched-down art might make too much of a chore to read.
The KISS Super Specials also got their own much cheaper TPB collection.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | December 24, 2015 7:55 PM
Mark, thanks. The problem with Amazon is that the minimum shipping price from 3rd parties is often equivalent or more than the price of the issue, but i have definitely used it for hard to find magazines and other strange things as well as trades. The Star Lord and Vampire Tales trades look like a convenient way to get those stories, so it's possible you'll see them in the next Back Issue Add (although the digest format will be a little annoying for VT).
Posted by: fnord12 | January 5, 2016 12:22 PM
I think you better add in Shogun Warriors 2-11 if you haven't already.
Posted by: D09 | January 24, 2016 11:21 PM
Posted by: fnord12 | January 25, 2016 7:14 AM
Marvel Tales #198 has a new story, basically a six page fight between Spidey and Thing. I searched but didn't see it listed and I don't see any reason it would be Out of Scope. Unless you've added "totally forgettable" to the criteria...
Posted by: Robert | January 31, 2016 6:18 PM
If only. :-) I've added it to the list here. Thanks Robert.
Posted by: fnord12 | January 31, 2016 6:47 PM
Wolverine Minus 1 takes place after the Hudsons meet Logan and features those "characters we didn't think have ever met have actually met" continuity inserts the kids love so much.
Posted by: Robert | February 5, 2016 6:08 PM
Thanks Robert. As i note in the list, i do have more of the Flashback stories but i'll add the rest when i get to 1997. Some require a judgement call regarding the framing sequences.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 5, 2016 7:32 PM
Sorry I scanned the page for Wolverine mentions but completely missed that you addressed the Flashbacks. Anyway I can totally understand wanting to delay it as long as possible ;)
Posted by: Robert | February 5, 2016 7:44 PM
Marvel Boy: The Uranian #1-3?
Posted by: AF | February 6, 2016 7:51 PM
And Captain America: Patriot #1-4 (which is a great little series).
Posted by: AF | February 7, 2016 12:40 PM
Thanks AF. I own these and have read them, but for some reason i thought it ended with a scene in the present day and so i was waiting until i get to 2010 before i cover them. But i just checked and it seems to only cover a span between 1950 and 1958. So i'll add them with my next back issue add.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 7, 2016 12:42 PM
Overlapped comments. I was referring to the Uranian only. But i've added Patriot to the list, too (taking your word for it that it's purely set in the past). Thanks.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 7, 2016 12:43 PM
It spans the character's various Atlas appearances and retells/revamps his origin but there's not anything relating to modern/Agents of Atlas comics. Not even a final splash page showing him with the team in modern times. There is a scene depicting the events of What If #9 (or rather the mostly identical canon version of it) but we end the series still in the Atlas era. I think possibly setting up the character's disappearance for the next 50 years of comics. It can be read in a vacuum, I don't recall any dependencies beyond that scene from What If #9. There's a few references to prototypes of the S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier and some stuff involving the Uranians/Eternals of Uranus.
Patriot similarly ends with Mace reading about the 50s Cap and Bucky in the paper. So it's all stuck in the past too. But that one spans quite a lot of time, with the first issue being early on in World War II with Mace as Patriot and Steve still as Cap. There's a LOT of continuity references and scenes where we see bits from various Timely Comics and the Invaders series from Mace's perspective.
And coincidentally both of these minis are linked by being spun out of two different issues of What If that are basically canon.
Posted by: AF | February 7, 2016 1:01 PM
Apparently there is a new Watcher story in Marvel Super-Heroes #23.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | February 11, 2016 10:37 AM
Thanks Mark. The GCD says that it is mostly a reprint of "Melvin and the Martian" from Amazing Adult Fantasy #12 and that it was originally intended as a back-up for Silver Surfer #8. I've added it to the list.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 11, 2016 10:50 AM
The 2nd reprint series of Tales To Astonish has the following new stories:
#12--The Vision(according to Marvel Age, the script to this was apparently used to audition new pencillers later on)
#14--1 page from the never-finished Shooter/Weiss Sub-Mariner series
Posted by: Mark Drummond | February 12, 2016 3:08 PM
Thanks Mark. I've added issues #12 & #13 to the list.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 13, 2016 11:16 AM
Giant-Size Dracula #5 has a backup story that I believe is referred to an MU story, but I can't remember which one or in what time period the story takes place in.
Giant-Size Man-Thing #3 apparently reprints a Dr. Droom story that's been altered to say Dr. Druid.
The 1975 Giant-Size Chillers series has several new stories in all 3 issues, which is weird because it had been some years since Marvel was doing horror anthology stories(they may have been leftover from cancelled b&w horror mags). It's possible that some stories may have been placed in the MU at some point.
Posted by: Mark Drummond | February 14, 2016 11:34 AM
The Giant-Size Dracula #5 back-up seems to be about a man in an insane asylum named Keith Starr that is imagining that he's fighting demons, so it doesn't seem to be in continuity unless he turns out to be related to Trish Starr or something.
The Dr. Droom story in Giant-Size Man-Thing #3 is a reprint from Amazing Adventures #6. I don't have that but it falls into the "i don't list every missing pre-FF #1 story" category.
For the Giant-Size Chillers stories, i'll wait and see if anything references them. Which is unlikely at this point but there are still other Marvel horror comics like Vampire Tales that i haven't covered.
Thanks for pointing them out. It was worth looking into even if they seem to have turned out to be mostly non-canon.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 15, 2016 7:57 AM
Looks like you may need to add Daredevil #162 to the missing list. That's the fill-in issue during the first Miller run with Steve Ditko art. I can't seem to find an entry for it.
Posted by: Rick | March 6, 2016 5:21 PM
Thanks Rick. I've added it.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 7, 2016 9:00 AM
Bit of a stupid question here, will you be covering any novels based on Marvel Comics, or are you just sticking to comics only?
Posted by: D09 | March 14, 2016 5:49 PM
I won't be covering any novels. I'm not sure if any of them are meant to be canon, but even if any were i'll be sticking to comics for this project.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 14, 2016 6:10 PM
I think Marvel has said that Adam Troy Castro's SINISTER SIX TRILOGY is canon.
Posted by: Thanos6 | March 14, 2016 9:52 PM
Is Daredevil #304 missing? Or is it going to be placed later than the issues that you have covered so far? (I don't seem to remember it having any dependencies that would do so, though.)
Posted by: Erik Robbins | March 18, 2016 12:56 AM
FNORD mentions on the forum that he doesn't have that issue currently:
"I don't have it. I may still try to get it before i finish the year, but if not i'll list it on the What's Missing page."
Posted by: CLYDE | March 18, 2016 8:28 AM
Are you missing either Sabretooth Vol 1 from 1993 and/or Sabretooth Special (1996), or have you got them and you haven't gotten to them yet, in a chronological fashion?
Posted by: D09 | April 15, 2016 2:10 AM
We're only on 1992 so far. Fnord will get around to them soon (the first a lot sooner than the latter).
Posted by: AF | April 15, 2016 4:32 AM
Looks like What If? 30 (original series) features an in-continuity Inhumans backup:
Posted by: cullen | April 18, 2016 12:36 AM
Not just #30, As recently brought up on a Quasar issue, What If #23-30 and #35 all feature in-continuity back-ups about the origins of various races.
Posted by: AF | April 18, 2016 5:00 AM
What If #29-30 take place in the "early 1950s" though, and so are "more" in-scope than the other Untold Tales of the Marvel Universe (which are also technically in scope, but only because the Watcher narrates them). I've added a general note about What If to this page.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 18, 2016 7:42 AM
The second story in What If #36 has a canon framing sequence of Nova returning to Earth and reuniting with his family. Was sure it was mentioned on this list already (or even covered). There's not much there besides wrapping a small loose end up and letting us know that Robbie Rider's Sherlock robot lives on. Most of it is a recap of the Xandar/Skrull war. It was included in the Nova Classic trades to compensate for not being able to reprint the incredibly important issue of Rom.
Posted by: AF | April 18, 2016 7:59 AM
In the comments on the Out of Scope page, a few more instances of characters other than the Watcher appearing in What If framing sequences are noted. Basically i'll give them the same level of priority as the rest of What If. Although Nova returning from space is actually a significant event for the character, so i may give that more of a priority now that i know about it. Thanks.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 18, 2016 8:14 AM
fnord, I don't know when you want to try braving the various Unlimited quarterly tiles that Marvel published in the 1990s (X-Men Unlimited, Spider-Man Unlimited, Fantastic Four Unlimited) as the quality on those is *extremely* variable. Nevertheless I remember that many of those stories were set firmly in-continuity. So you'd have to figure out where to position some of those stories, anyway.
Good luck with the material in FF Unlimited, much of which is supposed to take place between issues of the monthly FF title by DeFalco & Ryan, but which requires some creative juggling to slot even semi-neatly into their various long-term storylines.
Posted by: Ben Herman | April 26, 2016 10:49 PM
Well, independent of quality, there's some incredibly important stuff snuck into the Unlimited books that's necessary to read (Maximum Carnage part 1 and the final part, Sabretooth "joining" the X-Men, Rambeau becoming Photon).
Posted by: AF | April 27, 2016 3:59 AM
The earliest Unlimited is published in 1993, so none of them are "Missing" yet. But as far as i know, they're all in continuity and i intend to cover them. The FF ones are indeed a problem. The MCP have #1 taking place during the gap in FF #370, so i'll be covering that as part of 1992. #2 & #3 are a problem due to the Thing's face, but i'll be tackling them when i get to 1993.
(I think Rambeau's name change actually happens in an Unplugged but i intend to cover those too.)
Posted by: fnord12 | April 27, 2016 8:05 AM
fnord, for some reason I thought that FF Unlimited had started a few months earlier. My mistake.
Anyway, good luck reading those stories. I'm a fan of Herb Trimpe, and I seem to have been more accepting than most other readers of the Liefeld-inspired work he was doing in the 1990s. But even so, I will admit that some of his FF Unlimited penciling was really bizarre.
Posted by: Ben Herman | April 27, 2016 1:11 PM
Deadpool Team-Up 1 (1998) is a continuity insert, a tie-in to Secret Wars II (set around Spectacular Spider-Man 111).
Posted by: Midnighter | April 28, 2016 9:37 AM
There's some really bad continuity with that Deadpool vs. X-Force series though. Which is crazy considering they really hammered home the fact it was meant to be set before X-Force #1 and there was just stuff that couldn't be squared.
Posted by: AF | April 28, 2016 10:07 AM
I've added Team-Up and vs. X-Force. It's not super-important that i list individual issues of Deadpool's regular series; i'll just cover them when i get there. Thanks.
Posted by: fnord12 | April 28, 2016 5:17 PM
Probably super low on your priority list, but like the Mars and Ruler of Earth stories, Crypt of Shadows 5 features a reprint from Menace 10 edited to include a reference to Hydra.
Posted by: cullen | May 1, 2016 9:35 PM
Added it. Thanks Cullen.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 2, 2016 7:52 AM
Just to let you know, I think they're doing a re-release of all of Deadly Hands of Kung Fu in a collection. Surprised this and Shang-Chi are finally are getting the time of day.
Posted by: Ataru320 | May 11, 2016 9:27 PM
Thanks for the alert, Ataru. I see it's an Omnibus that will only cover the first 18 issues (of 33), but that's a good start.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 12, 2016 7:30 AM
fnord, you're missing Spider Super Stories #39, which features the historic first appearance of the Thanos Copter...
And don't any of you dare tell me this story isn't considered canonical:P
Posted by: Ben Herman | May 15, 2016 7:04 PM
I've covered it like 5 times, but Thanos keeps undoing it with the Time gem.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 16, 2016 7:26 AM
That darn Thanos! I bet he also claims that it wasn't really him in Spidey Super Stories, but one of his Thanosi duplicates. C'mon, Thanos, own up to it :)
Posted by: Ben Herman | May 16, 2016 1:36 PM
Are you going to do anymore Captain America Comics involving the Grand Dictator version of Captain America? In particular, how about the one that involves the Man With No Face, from Captain America Comics Vol 1, Issue 77, who later reappears during Ed Brubaker's run on Captain America?
Posted by: D09 | May 29, 2016 12:11 AM
It's in scope but no immediate plans unless Marvel releases cheapo reprints or something.
Posted by: fnord12 | May 29, 2016 9:13 AM
Quick question: do you consider the two Spider-Man Drakes Cakes Mini Comics Series published in 1993 within the scope of your project or not really?
Posted by: D09 | June 28, 2016 1:54 AM
I know the MCP has covered the Charleston Chew comic as in-scope. I can't find a determination on the Drake Cakes comics. But the only way i'd consider covering stuff like that is if i came across another comic that referenced it. So i may list such things on the What's Missing page (as i've done with Charleston Chew), but it's unlikely they'll ever get actually get covered.
Posted by: fnord12 | June 28, 2016 7:26 AM
Marvel recently released a TPB of Howard the Duck Magazine.
Posted by: Gaston | August 3, 2016 6:22 PM
Don't know if this helps or not, but here's a site containing a lot of those Rampaging Hulk books you're looking for (as individual issues): https://www.mycomicshop.com/search?TID=447871.
Though if you just want the Hulk stories only (and in black & white), here's a Marvel Essentials collection: https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Rampaging-Hulk-Marvel-Essentials/dp/0785126996.
Posted by: D09 | August 3, 2016 8:04 PM
Thanks guys. My bank account and i are well aware of mycomicshop.com. ;-) I'm more interested in the Hulk magazines for the back-ups, and the original issues are out of my price range at the moment, so those will continue to wait. Post-Gerber Howard the Duck is also not a high priority for me, but it's good that they've been collected.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 4, 2016 9:33 AM
You could always try either eBay or this site that I've found (http://www.hallofjusticecomics.com/) to see if you can get better prices for what you want.
Posted by: D09 | August 4, 2016 2:19 PM
On finding those last couple issues of Daredevil you're missing, with Daredevil #1 your best bet is something like Daredevil Masterworks Vol 1 since the issue alone can cost over $1000. However with Daredevil #162, I've found someplace that sells it at a price you may agree with: http://www.atomicempire.com/issue.aspx?item=44708&utm_source=psw&gclid=CjwKEAjwlZa9BRCw7cS66eTxlCkSJAC-ddmwbAYzayQOxzWzJBOI4P2vmecZ5nXvMm-uDiznyDcvsxoCf6_w_wcB.
Posted by: D09 | August 6, 2016 9:48 PM
Thanks D09. To be clear, if it's listed on this page it doesn't mean i'm actively looking for it/can't find it. This is just a way to inform people about things that are missing from the project. Despite the recent sundries i've been adding, my focus at the moment is adding new years to the project as opposed to filling in missing back issues.
Posted by: fnord12 | August 10, 2016 8:21 AM
Is Professor Xavier and the X-Men in continuity? How about X-Men First Class?
Posted by: Steven | September 16, 2016 11:51 AM
The MCP list both as non-canon on the list i link to from my Out of Scope page. As Michael notes in comments on this page, there's some debate about First Class.
Posted by: fnord12 | September 16, 2016 12:11 PM
If you're looking for more material about Marvel Monsters, there's a new omnibus coming out in January with a second volume to follow. Here's the solicitation for it:
MONSTERS VOL. 1: THE MARVEL MONSTERBUS
BY STAN LEE, LARRY LIEBER & JACK KIRBY HC
From Groot to Fin Fang Foom, Marvel is proud to collect Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby’s monster masterworks in two astonishing Omnibus volumes! Stan “The Man” Lee and Jack “The King” Kirby are known the world over as two of the most influential creative powerhouses of the 20th century. Before they created Marvel’s super heroes, they concocted a host of iconic monster menaces! As if driven by atomic power, Lee and Kirby—aided by scripter Larry Lieber—turned out page after page of action-packed classics, many hinting at the famous Marvel heroes and villains to come: Thorr the Unbelievable; a wooly, alien Hulk; the eight-foot-tall Magneto. These tales are the awe-inspiring crucible that created the Marvel Age of Comics! Collecting material from STRANGE TALES OF THE UNUSUAL (1955) 7; ASTONISHING (1951) 56; WORLD OF FANTASY (1956) 15-19; STRANGE WORLDS (1958) 1, 3-5; STRANGE TALES (1951) 67-70, 72-86; JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY (1952) 51-70; TALES TO ASTONISH (1959) 1, 3-21; TALES OF SUSPENSE (1959) 2-19; and AMAZING ADVENTURES (1961) 1-2.
872 PGS./All Ages …$100.00
Posted by: D09 | October 18, 2016 10:09 PM
Are you missing Yellow Claw #4? I can't seem to find it on this site.
Posted by: D09 | October 18, 2016 11:31 PM
Posted by: fnord12 | October 19, 2016 8:08 AM
Hi fnord, honestly, I've had a look but I cannot find Marvel-Team up #126. Is there a reason why you haven't covered it? Or have you and I'm just no looking hard enough?
Posted by: JSfan | October 23, 2016 7:44 AM
It's there: The Spidey/Hulk part is in 1980; the Luke Cage/Damion Hellstrom part was early 83.
Posted by: Ataru320 | October 23, 2016 8:51 AM
Thank you, Ataru320, I was looking in the 1983 section. I did type Marvel -Teamup in th search bar but somehow missed it.
Posted by: JSfan | October 23, 2016 11:13 AM
Well there's your problem, you typed "Marvel -Teamup" or "Marvel-Team up" instead of "Marvel Team-Up" /s
Posted by: Morgan Wick | October 24, 2016 6:23 PM
Any thoughts on either Deadpool's Secret Secret Wars or Deadpool: Back in Black?
Posted by: D09 | November 15, 2016 5:42 PM
Basically the same as what i say about "Deadpool's various jokey retcon appearances" for his regular series. But Back In Black was published post Secret Wars, so it's out of scope for my project.
Posted by: fnord12 | November 16, 2016 7:39 AM
Just a heads-up, the second Deadly Hands of Kung-Fu Omnibus collecting DEADLY HANDS OF KUNG FU (1974) #19-33 and material from BIZARRE ADVENTURES #25 is coming out in February.
Posted by: D09 | November 22, 2016 2:08 PM
Were you planning on doing X-Men Origins: Cyclops #1, X-Men Origins: Jean Grey #1, and Angel: Revelations #1-5? You have the X-Men Origins: Iceman one done already... the Cyclops one takes place before/during The Uncanny X-Men #1, Jean Grey during Journey Into Mystery #109 and the Angel issues weave through his origin story pre-The Uncanny X-Men #1.
Posted by: Jay Demetrick | December 1, 2016 2:41 AM
No plans to cover them any time soon. But i've listed them on the What's Missing page. I'm assuming that you've singled out these three because you've checked and they don't have any present day framing sequences, and the ones that you didn't mention (Beast, Colossus, Gambit, Sabretooth, Wolverine, Deadpool, Emma Frost, Nightcrawler) do? If that's not the case, let me know.
Posted by: fnord12 | December 1, 2016 3:10 PM
I listed those because I'm a fan of the early X-Men. They don't have framing stories. I'm missing the Beast one but looking it up, it doesn't have any modern framing either according to uncannyxmen.net.
Posted by: Jay Demetrick | December 1, 2016 10:25 PM
Thanks Jay. I've updated the list to just include all the X-Men: Origins issues (except Iceman).
Posted by: fnord12 | December 2, 2016 10:46 AM
Just found the second Marvel Monsters Omnibus, its coming out August 2017:
Comicdom's famous monsters are on the loose! Marvel presents the concluding volume in our complete collection of Stan Lee, Larry Lieber and Jack Kirby's Marvel Monsters. Marvel's late-1950s/early-1960s period was famous for its twist-ending tales, alien invaders and especially its towering monster menaces - and no one drew giant monsters like Jack "The King" Kirby! It's page after page of Grogg, Ogg, the Creature from Krogarr, Fin Fang Foom, and more! These stories aren't just a fun atomic romp-they're the training ground where Stan Lee and Jack Kirby honed their creative partnership, learning each other's strengths and building an unmatched rapport. In these pages, you'll find out that the mother of the Marvel A ge of Comics was - a monster!
COLLECTING: MATERIAL FROM STRANGE TALES (1951) 87-100; STRANGE TALES ANNUAL (1962) 1; JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY (1952) 71-82; TALES TO ASTONISH (1959) 20-34; TALES OF SUSPENSE (1959) 20-38; AMAZING ADVENTURES (1961) 1-6; CHAMBER OF DARKNESS (1969) 4-5
Posted by: D09 | January 1, 2017 11:51 PM
Quick update here: that second Marvel Monsters Omnibus comes out April of this year, got the wrong release info by mistake, the contents of said omnibus are still the same though.
Posted by: D09 | January 24, 2017 7:57 PM
For the sake of completeness, Avengers: The Origin is apparently a 2010 prequel miniseries to the Earth's Mightiest Heroes series expanding on Avengers #1.
For the sake of "whenever you start emphasizing back issues more again", since D09 and Ataru have been alerting you to the Marvel Monsters and Deadly Hands of Kung-Fu omnibuses, Volume 3 of the Master of Kung-Fu omnibus comes out in March and reprints #71-101 (and What If #16), of which you only have four issues, as opposed to the earlier volumes with only a few issues you don't have (the Giant-Sizes in volume 1 and #64-70 in volume 2). Don't know if that's as much of a focus for you as Deadly Hands is with the Sons of the Tiger, but there it is.
Posted by: Morgan Wick | February 22, 2017 1:03 AM
Speaking of Avengers, here's one more possibility for you to look into in the future:
AVENGERS: FOUR TPB
Written by MARK WAID
Posted by: D09 | February 22, 2017 1:28 AM
I don't know if fnord's no-post-Secret-Wars rule applies to continuity inserts published after that point, but I would guess it's off-limits, though I'm shocked that Marvel would do any revisiting of its past in 2016.
Posted by: Morgan Wick | February 22, 2017 3:34 AM
Thanks guys. Added The Origin to the list. And yeah, Avengers: Four falls out of the scope of my project since it was published post-Secret Wars.
Posted by: fnord12 | February 22, 2017 7:22 AM
Here's the 4th Master of Kung Fu Omnibus solicitation that's coming out in June:
SHANG-CHI: MASTER OF KUNG FU OMNIBUS VOL. 4 HC MACK COVER
Written by DOUG MOENCH with ALAN ZELENETZ, PETER B. GILLIS, GENE DAY & STEVEN GRANT
Posted by: D09 | March 21, 2017 1:48 PM
Are you thinking of including The Savage Hulk v2 (2014) and Fantastic Four World's Greatest Comic Magazine v1 (2001) around 1970?
Posted by: Bibs | March 24, 2017 8:49 AM
Nevermind fnord. I've seen that you placed Savage Hulk after UXM 66 and the Fantastic Four magazine is in the what's missing list.
SOrry for jumping the gun.
Posted by: Bibs | March 24, 2017 9:49 AM
Wheels Wolinski of Wolfpack has become a recurring character in Occupy Avengers
Posted by: cullen | April 27, 2017 5:07 PM
If it helps, here's what I've been able to find out about where you can get these stories to add to your site:
Tales to Astonish # 77 (Sub-Mariner half) is reprinted in Marvel Super-Heroes #32 and is collected in Marvel Masterworks The Sub-Mariner Vol 1
Posted by: D09 | May 23, 2017 6:53 PM
Even if it's not directly useful to fnord, I certainly appreciate that list D09!
Posted by: cullen | May 23, 2017 7:02 PM
Got a double feature for you from September in case you're interested (has a couple issues that you're missing included in each one):
TOMB OF DRACULA: THE COMPLETE COLLECTION VOL. 1 TPB
Written by GERRY CONWAY, ARCHIE GOODWIN, GARDNER FOX, MARV WOLFMAN, ROY THOMAS, STEVE GERBER & TONY ISABELLA
Posted by: D09 | June 20, 2017 3:35 PM
Reached the character limit with the last post, sorry!
MARVEL HORROR: THE MAGAZINE COLLECTION TPB
Written by CHRIS CLAREMONT, DOUG MOENCH, TONY ISABELLA, DON MCGREGOR, BRUCE JONES, J.M. DEMATTEIS, STEVE PERRY & MORE
There's also a WEREWOLF BY NIGHT: THE COMPLETE COLLECTION VOL. 1 TPB coming out as well if you want to look for it.
Posted by: D09 | June 20, 2017 3:37 PM
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