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« Comics: January 2014 | Main | Comics: March 2014 » ComicsMarvel Sales January. The new guy. He starts off with an incorrect usage of "begs the question" but he has a background as a comics retailer, not obscure grammar, so we'll give him a try (i haven't read this yet; posting it here so i don't forget to read it later). By fnord12 | February 28, 2014, 4:35 PM | Comics | Link Just two this week due to delays in the supply chain which are totally fine, really. X-Men #11 - Ah, it's my weekly installment of this book. A weekly pace is difficult to maintain, which is i assume why we have minimal backgrounds, one page that is just a huge close-up of Monet's face, and a "meanwhile" section in the back of the book by a different artist that repeats its opening splash page on the prior page as a "cover". And having different artists on the same book can lead to problems, which is why we seemingly have Quentin Quire back in the X-Mansion with John Sublime at the same time he's fighting sentinels with the kid X-Men. Unless the two scenes aren't meant to take place at the same time, but then why "meanwhile"? Despite all of that, Brian Wood's actual writing continues to be good. This is the part of the story where people stand around and try to figure out the plot (synopsis: the X-Men stand around on an empty boat and wonder what's going on), but i enjoy the snarky back and forth dialogue and the continued build-up of the Sisterhood (and a reference to Necrosha!). I am watching with interest the way Enchantress reacts to all of this. She's clearly aware that she's gotten in over her head (bowing to both Arkea and Selene?). We've already seen how Ana Cortes has tried to deal with it; presumably she won't be the last to rebel and i expect something better from Amora. But clearly i'm interested in the book despite the continued production problems. Daredevil #36 - No caveats about this: i enjoyed this issue and this series and i will be back for the "reboot". You could argue maybe there's too much reaction to Daredevil revealing his identity since it's not like it wasn't already essentially known, but it was done for a clever reason. And as Uncanny Michael pointed out, there's Beat-Up Hawkeye so now i have to go pick up all of the Fraction/Aja series to find out about that (see Marvel? That's how you cross-sell comics!)(although it's the crowd scenes that always get you when it comes time to work out the chronology). By fnord12 | February 27, 2014, 3:16 PM | Comics | Comments (1)| Link The Beat has some info and basically an OK from Mantlo's brother Mike to go ahead and see the Guardians of the Galaxy movie. I want to use this as an opportunity to say that while i often knock his writing style, i hope it's obvious that i think Bill Mantlo's contributions to the Marvel universe were HUGE. In addition to Rocket Raccoon, here are some other character creations (certainly not comprehensive): Cloak & Dagger Of course we shouldn't neglect the artists' contributions or the way later writers built off this stuff. The recurring theme of my timeline project is that the sum is greater than the parts. But Mantlo contributed so many of the parts (and in terms of events and storylines, much more than is reflected by the above list). I'm glad to see Marvel doing something in the right direction for Mantlo. The question of character creations is in my mind a difficult one due to the "sum of the parts" issue (the characters in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie illustrate that very clearly), and Mantlo's specific issues are part of a larger societal problem (and one that Obamacare didn't really fix, per this moving article). Min and i do a monthly recurring donation to the Hero Initiative, but Mantlo's situation is unfortunately not going to be fixed with money. So it's good to see the Guardians of the Galaxy getting him some recognition, too. By fnord12 | February 24, 2014, 9:59 AM | Comics | Link The second batch.... X-Men #10.NOW - Ghosts #1 my ass. This is the story that this entire series has been about, and it's a direct continuation of last issue. I can see with the fake #1 that Wood is making an effort to be more expository, and that's useful. Unfortunately there's some basic quality problems in this issue that may be offputting, starting with basic grammar. "I'm not use to going toe-to-toe with magic users"? (And that's from Monet and she's supposed to be perfect, right?) Then there's Storm saying "This display is courtesy of the Cerebro spikes that Psylocke stole from that freak show Xavier descendant." I can't even parse that sentence, let alone believe it came from Storm's mouth. Also some problems with word balloon direction... ...and a missing face (haven't seen one of those in a while!). Not putting your best foot forward. If you can get past the production problems, this DOES seem like a decent jumping on point for someone interested in the book but missed the first few issues (or coming in off the crossover issues that i skipped). Not because it's the first part of a story but because the script actually bothers with making the book accessible. And frankly, that's useful to me, too, as someone that reads lots of comics and other stuff every month and can't remember every detail of every issue. Not to mention the fact that this book has all the kid X-Men that i don't know much about, so again the exposition was helpful. The fact that it requires a special issue with a made-up number to do this stuff is kind of sad; it used to be that this kind of thing was standard. I know it often went too far in the other direction, with every character shouting their names and powers every issue, but this issue finds a nice balance and there's no reason it couldn't always be like this. As for the actual story, it continues to be interesting and is building nicely. The sentinel battle and the planned new recruits for the Sisterhood are things to look forward to. Black Widow #3 - One thing we were disappointed by in the Captain Ms. Marvel series was how she was first thrown into a time-travel story that mucked with her origin, then given a brain aneurysm, de-powered, etc.. Similarly with Sif and her berzerker thing. Why couldn't we just watch these super-heroines do their thing for a while before we get into deconstruction? So i have to admit, that's exactly what we have here with Black Widow. Just going on spy missions and kicking ass, with a little bit of character insight. That said, the stories still have to be interesting and i'm still on the fence about that. And maybe my complaints about decompression are being taken a little too literally; the stories don't have to be entirely one-and-done. I think with the introduction of Maria Hill and the Widow taking a SHIELD job, we might see a larger plot develop. So i'd say it's worth going a little further with this. Iron Man #21 - This continues to be good with the Red Peril character having some nuance (and a terrible name; i still think she should have been a new Firebrand) and Gillen doing nice with the scripting and the new "Mandarins" and their funny rings. Secret Avengers #15 - Very nice! Luke Ross really shines in this issue. Doing things Steranko-style seems to be the new trend again, but Ross does it well and it's of course fitting for this style. And a nice fakeout on killing Mockingbird. As i was reading it i was thinking what was the point of bringing back Bobbi in Secret Invasion just to kill her again, but (i assume at this point i'm not spoiling this for anyone except Min) killing off the extraneous Black Widow is a lot easier to take, and of course she can come back as a cyborg if we want to use her again. The inclusion of the fake Shang-Chi was a little weird and he was taken care of very easily, but whatever, still a fun little fight. See? I praised lots of stuff in this issue and didn't even mention that all i'm really excited about is MODOK joining SHIELD. Ms. Marvel #1 - Wow, this was really great. I've read some complaints from potentially sympathetic readers saying that Kamala comes across as TOO stereotypically Muslim, with the bacon bit at the beginning and other things with her family, and i agree that it comes on a bit strong at first. But once she pivots to "why can't i be normal" you realize it's a classic Spider-Man type story. And i liked the art by Alphona. I liked him recently on the issues he did of Uncanny X-Force but a more quirky teen drama book like this is better for the original Runaways artist. So, here's hoping this keeps up. (Wanyas is right, though: i don't know what beach these kids are hanging out at in Jersey City). Revolutionary War: Death's Head II - First of all, i've never liked Death's Head II, just on principle, because he isn't Death's Head I. But i did enjoy this. Because, hey, Death's Head I, yes? And holy cow, knock me over with a feather, he mentions rebuilding his body after his encounter with Iron Man! Yeah, this was fun. You can't go wrong when the villain busts out in a giant concussion cannon with a big drill bit on the front. And this series continues to do a good job of introducing these characters and their histories (if only through a standard "let me download your memories" plot device this time). And despite the unusual format - different writers, different characters, no sequential numbering - the story has been fairly cohesive. It's been a nice diversion. Superior Foes of Spider-Man #8 - Poor Shocker. He used to have such a nice apartment. And now even the severed head of Silvermane is mocking him. Thanks, Obama! This continues to be just an awesome comic. And i've finally figured out that the one guy on this team that i haven't really gotten a handle on is actually Big Wheel. By fnord12 | February 21, 2014, 2:20 PM | Comics | Comments (1)| Link To start, the plot courtesy of the back cover: Á la Henry Fielding's Bridget Jones's Diary, The She-Hulk Diaries by Marta Acosta is a series of journal entries made by Jennifer Walters about fulfilling a list of New Year's resolutions. If you hate first person narratives, TSHD might not work for you. This book falls under the "chick lit" genre. Chick lit (according to Wikipedia) focuses on the "issues of modern womanhood". Between that definition and the plot summary on the back cover, I thought this book would be about how Jen Walters juggles her dual lives of being a top-notch lawyer and a world-saving superhero. It's not. She-Hulk barely makes a showing with a total of eight very brief appearances where she easily takes care of an immediate threat (this includes the final encounter with the "main" villain) and then does some off-camera partying before going back to being Jen Walters. Limited Shulky time is one of Jen's goals for the new year. The majority of the book actually consists of Jen trying to convince herself she is not still in love with her post-grad crush/weekend hookup Ellis Quintal IV.
**SPOILER ALERT***
She is still in love with her post-grad crush/weekend hookup.
**END SPOILER ALERT**
And as for the "issues of modern womanhood", well, from reading TSHD, i have determined that means moaning about not having a job (she finds a job about 3 seconds after she starts looking), not having a place to live (she goes from one luxury apartment where she's been living for free to another luxury apartment where she lives for free), and not having a boyfriend (this one takes a bit longer to resolve). Even her therapist wants to know why she hasn't yet found a man. It's quite empowering.
I was very surprised by how this She-Hulk is totally unlike the She-Hulk i was familiar with. Ok, admittedly, i have no knowledge of She-Hulk from any of her solo books. All of my knowledge is gleaned from her appearances in other titles. For instance, the current run of FF (Matt Fraction/Mike Allred) - the Fantastic Four ask her to be one of the people to hold down the fort at the Future Foundation while they go off on a family trip. This alone signals to me that she is considered responsible and capable by her superhero colleagues. And her portrayal in the book has lived up to that. Conversely, Acosta's She-Hulk is immature, irresponsible, willfully destructive, and the Avengers don't want to have anything to do with her. In one scene, she "borrows" a parking attendant's motorcycle to get to a fashion show. In order to avoid traffic, she drives up on the sidewalk. And then for kicks, she jumps the motorcycle off of a row of cabs, causing their roofs to cave in, while waving to the media. Additionally, in the novel, the public is unaware that Jennifer Walters is She-Hulk. Just to make sure i hadn't missed some major character changes over the years, i conferred with my comic book experts (fnord12, Wanyas, and Bob). They all agreed with my vision of She-Hulk. Problem was none of us read Dan Slott's She-Hulk run in 2004. Whoops. So, She-Hulk was (is?) irresponsible and destructive and did get kicked out of Avengers Mansion by Cap in the comics. The She-Hulk Diaries takes place shortly after that. Now, if you normally dislike epistolary novels because of the lack of detail and the jumps in time between entries, fret not. Jen Walters assures us in the very beginning that she will be as faithful as possible while transcribing conversations and whoo boy, did she deliver on her promise. Her daily interactions are so exactly transcribed, you will start to wonder if Acosta realized she was supposed to be constructing journal entries. Nothing is too mundane to be chronicled! Jen mainly interacts with her best friend Dahlia. Other key characters include Ellis Quintal, the aforementioned crush; Sven Morigi, a client she's representing and the second "Mr. Right" mentioned in the blurb; and Amber Tumbridge, Jen's colleague and, more importantly, Ellis' fiancée. The supporting characters are generally pretty under-developed and two dimensional. The worst of them is Amber Tumbridge. She was created to fulfill the "bitchy rival" role. Her only expression is a "smeer", a combination smile and sneer. She's outrageously condescending about everything and to everyone. The complete lack of redeeming qualities often leaves both the reader and the characters in the book wondering why Quintal is with her. I suppose we could say that since this is all written from Jen's perspective, it's a skewed picture of her romantic rival. That's all well and good for real life, but it doesn't make for very interesting reading. There was added frustration when Jen almost has a real and meaningful conversation with Ruth, the woman in charge of all the Avengers' paperwork. Ruth brings up the inequality women face when they are deemed "sluts" by men for being equally sexually active. When i read that, i thought "Yeah! Now we're getting somewhere!". Jen gives a rather unemotional statement of agreement and then switches the topic immediately to Fan Club business. I was so disappointed. It's like the author enticed me with something that is a very real problem of "modern womanhood" only to say "Just kidding! That's too serious. Let's get back to the lighthearted hilarity.". *sigh* The She-Hulk Diaries wasn't entirely unreadable. It gave nods to comic book geeks with tidbits such as Holden Holliway mentioning his granddaughter's (AKA Southpaw) left hook. But with zingers like this...
Dahlia: Because you waste all your energy on torts, not retorts.
...representative of the level of wit and humor you can expect throughout the book, i couldn't actually recommend it.
**MORE SPOILER ALERT**
The big villain turns out to be Sven Morigi who is really Doctor Doom in disguise. He explains in his villain speech. Obviously.
Wha??? Who the hell is this guy? No way in hell Doom is talking like that. The "von" is "a little much"??? I made a gurgling noise when i read that cause i was choking on my disbelief. Yeah. If you have any respect at all for Doom, don't read this book. By min | February 21, 2014, 9:53 AM | Boooooks
& Comics | Link December. Paul O'Brien's last. By fnord12 | February 19, 2014, 12:30 PM | Comics | Link I'm a bit behind on currents. Here comes the first batch... Iron Man #20.INH - Nicely standalone for an Inhumanity tie-in. I like the sentient rings, and i liked the analysis of their various candidates (and it's nice to see they have standards in rejecting the Red Skull for his views on ethnic genocide). One thing i haven't loved in the glimpses i've been getting of Inhumanity is the unfriendly rivalry between Tony Stark and Bruce Banner (it's just really stupid for Stark to antagonize Banner), and i did like seeing Arno call Tony on that to a degree here. X-Men #9 - This has been a fun adventure story. I do really miss Olivier Coipel's art, which was a big reason we were attracted to this book. And the Dodsons are not helping matters. But i'm still liking this. I do like the use of the Enchantress here unlike a lot of the internet, apparently. As a character that was in the Masters of Evil and a participant in Secret Wars, i like to see her integrated more into the Marvel universe and not just dealing with Thor stuff. And i liked seeing her use her physical side against Monet; she's not just a sorceress, she's also a physically powerful Asgardian. I'm also liking Monet too, actually. She's a character i never knew much about since i didn't read Generation X and fell away from the X-books generally later on. And she didn't make much of an impression in Peter David's X-Factor (at the point where i started, anyway). But she's been used well here. Revolutionary War: Knights of Pendragon #1 - I want to say that this book seems to be trying too hard, with a Zombie King Arthur and his Zombie Knights of the Round Table and his Zombie Exclaibur. But who am i kidding? I love Zombie King Arthur and his Zombie Knights of the Round Table and his Zombie Exclaibur. I do have to say that my lack of knowledge of sports and especially British sports defeated me for the ending, though: i have no idea who G.Knight is, although i do get the basic idea. This book was a weird kind of fun. Good scripting gave me a feel for the characters even though i haven't really read them before (i do recall having picked up a few of the original books in bargain bins but what i most distinctly remember is Black Panther on the cover crying over a dead hippo). Indestructible Hulk #18.INH - I don't really have anything to say about this except that the way they draw the Beast nowadays is ridiculous. FF #16 - Wow, this was like a treatise on the Marvel universe. I don't know, there was a lot of continuity in this book. Was it really in the service of a story? Interesting idea on Pym particles - in some ways it's synergistic with Erik Josten, who had powers based on both Pym Particles and Zemo's ionic rays, but at the same time it makes Josten less unique to say that Zemo's work is actually just using Pym's particles a different way. Innovative, in any event but i have to sleep on the implications. For the purposes of this story, i liked it as a way for Scott Lang to beat Doom, even if from here they decide that using Pym Particles that way is unstable and never do it again. And i thought the comments on Dr. Doom's scarring were interesting as well. I have to admit i was skeptical about this FF book when i first picked it up but i am glad i gave it a try and am sorry to see it go. It's been weirdly old school and hyper-modern at the same time, and of course a lot of that is because of Allred, but not entirely. So to the degree that Matt Fraction was involved, i amend my opinion of him accordingly. Black Widow #1-2 - In my rant about renumberings i mentioned both Hawkeye and Daredevil but for brevity (ha!) i left out an aside where i wanted to say how the funny thing about those books is that their selling point is that they are driven entirely by the unique voice of the creative team. As if that's some innovative new way of producing comics! But lately, it has been. Walter Lawson has some good comments on my other recent rant where he likens Marvel writers to the 90s artists that had more power than the editors. But at the same time the Marvel direction seems very editorially driven, alongside the handful of "Marvel Architects". So Hawkeye and Daredevil really are outliers to a degree (ironically since Fraction is one of the Architects). And interestingly those books have gotten some critical acclaim, and now we're seeing more books that are being explicitly promoted along that line like this Black Widow book. Get on the hot new trend of books not written by committee! As for the actual content of this book, well, Phil Noto's art is interesting (and it seems to have gotten better since his Iceman retcon) but it's not very dynamic and i'm on the fence about it working for Black Widow. The stories are fine spy stuff, but i'm again not sure about the idea that she does all this work but donates the proceeds to charity. Seems unnecessarily complicated. She's an Avenger and a SHIELD agent. She ought to have plenty to do if she wants to do good. But it's an interesting way to keep her in the spy game while keeping her heroic. Honestly i find it all a bit bland but thanks to Marvel's opportunistic publishing schedule (or what Marvel calls the reader trend towards binge consuming) i already have not just these two issues but a third sitting in my second batch of currents, so i'll have another chance to form an opinion. By fnord12 | February 18, 2014, 12:10 PM | Comics | Comments (1)| Link It's hard to believe, but i originally envisioned that if i did have anyone reading my Marvel Timeline site, i would quietly put a year together, work out all the details, and then announce here where people would go and read it. Instead, i get comments as i'm working on the year, and i actually like that much better. Instant feedback and a real motivation to keep up a steady pace so that there is something new most days. Plus, i was doing it on the internet. I don't know what i was thinking. But if there are any lurkers out there who prefer to read it all at once, i'm calling 1986 done for now (with the usual caveats). I said i'd finish 1986 in the winter, and judging by the endless snow that keeps coming down, i made that deadline, although just barely. But: 1986! The conclusion of Secret Wars II! X-Factor! The Mutant Massacre! The Raid on Avengers Mansion! And just a great year generally. And thanks to everyone who does read and comment, whenever you do it. I appreciate your corrections, challenges, opinions, and recollections. I really did just start this project for myself, to get a better grip on my own collection, but it's so much more rewarding to get all your feedback and see that others see value in it. I do intend to go directly to 1987 as promised, and i already know that there are some books that will wind up going back into 1986, so watch the Recent Updates> Pushback space if you are following along in real time. By fnord12 | February 17, 2014, 7:46 PM | Comics | Comments (3)| Link Let me start by saying that i appreciate that Tom Brevoort does his tumblr Q&A. I like hearing the thinking that goes on at Marvel, even when i don't like it or think it's good for their business. But sometimes i think he's trolling me and my ilk (if you read my Timeline website, you are of my ilk for the purposes of this conversation). And i know whenever i quote Brevoort, Min gets upset. So by posting this, i'm kind of trolling her. So i apologize for all of that. But i did want to preserve this post where Brevoort claims that the focus on Marvel continuity comes from Mark Gruenwald. I get what he's trying to say, which is that Gruenwald did some things that really increased the internal consistency and cataloged (literally) a lot of things. And it's nice of him to acknowledge that a lot of fans like Marvel continuity because Marvel encouraged us to do so. But the idea that continuity in the 60s and 70s before Gruenwald was "much, much looser, much more in the service of the stories being told" is demonstrably false. Steve Englehart's Celestial Madonna storyline is almost as much a Marvel Handbook as Gruenwald's Marvel Handbooks. And i can't count the number of stories that Roy Thomas wrote just to fix some previous continuity error. Two that quickly come to mind are the Invaders story that fixes the discrepancies in the original Squadron Sinister story, and the Avengers time travel story that fixed various inconsistencies in the death/freezing of Captain America. Those stories were barely stories in their own right; they were much more in the service of the continuity than telling a story. Whether that's good or bad is up for debate, but the idea that the interest in continuity was some mid-80s aberration is completely wrong. As always, i log this stuff for posterity so if i ever get my Timeline up to the current era and tumblr hasn't link-rotted away, i can easily refer back to it. But it's also relevant in terms of a little controversy that seems to be bubbling right now. I'm not reading the comics in question, so it's not of immediate concern to me. But it seems that Corsair has been dead, and he's just shown up on the final page of a Bendis comic with no explanation. Now, of course, it's a last page reveal, so it's entirely possible that Bendis had every intention of explaining it. But people have reason to be concerned, as the return of Star-Lord has not yet been explained after how many issues, and the response on that is that he's getting to it. So who knows if Bendis ever really intended to explain why Corsair was back if people hadn't written to him about it. And i guess a subset of this controversy is that Hepzibah was last seen on Earth, and now she's in space with Corsair. And the response there is a dismissive "She went back into space". Brevoort says (one of the links above) that what the complainers want is a "Reese [sic] Commission report with footnotes and cross-referencing", and certainly some footnotes would help ease the tension and confusion quite a bit. But i think what these type (us type) of fans really want is just that internal consistency that if we see Corsair and Hepzibah, there's some sort of explanation of how they got from the point A that we last saw them at to the current point B (remember, the Corsair example is just because it's topical; we've been through this a thousand times before and that's why fans are being so quick to react this time). Especially if point A for one of them was seeming death (like Star-Lord). Sure we can make it up on our own. But then what's the point? The thing about this is, we're supposed to care about Corsair and Hepzibah; i assume their appearance on that last page is meant to be an exciting cliff-hanger. But we care about them because of their past appearances. What Brevoort and Bendis really want is the ability to say "Oh no, this is a different story and Corsair and Hepzibah and Star-Lord are alive in this one", but they don't want to actually say that. Because they know that a large subset of Marvel fans aren't really interested in the little stories as such. They are interested in THE story of the Marvel universe. If i'm wrong about that, and it's just a few loud complainers, then they could easily put their money where their mouth is and just abandon continuity. No need to pretend that Bendis will eventually explain this stuff. Just let your comics sell on the strength of the individual stories you are telling. But i don't think that's the case and so Brevoort has to at least pay lip-service to the idea that it really still is a shared universe. But you can sure see the contempt they have for having to do that. And the reason i'm logging this here and i'm not just giving up is because i think this is just a phase Marvel is going through. I think what you have is an almost visceral reaction to the excessive continuity that happened in a period where the Mark Gruenwalds rose to the top of the ranks and maybe put too much emphasis on continuity by the period of the early 90s. I'm interested in getting to that period again, but i've already seen glimpses of it with various comments about Quasar. And that seems to be a period that Marvel currently looks on with embarrassment, maybe when talking to Disney execs or the movie guys (see the reaction in Sean Howe's book from the movie execs about the "the Talmudic continuity scholars in Marvel editorial" at the time). So the pendulum is currently swinging hard in the opposite direction. And it's interesting to watch and see where it goes, whether it will swing back or just keep going in that direction until the weight just crashes right through the ceiling. By fnord12 | February 14, 2014, 2:37 PM | Comics | Comments (11)| Link Who will take my chronologically ordered comics collection when i am gone? Another argument in favor of immortality. By fnord12 | February 12, 2014, 3:52 PM | Comics | Link I don't have anything profound to say but just to prevent any off topic conversation i wanted to quickly throw up a post here in response to a comment in the General Comments section on the Timeline. Short answer is i really like all the Marvel Studio movies. After years of disappointing super-hero movies, Marvel showed that by doing it in house they could create a popular set of movies that don't throw out all the concepts that make the comics what they are. Of course the movies change some stuff, but for the most part the movies are a lot closer to the comics than past super-hero movies. No one says "my powers don't work that way" like Storm did in X-Men. In that vein i'm a little apprehensive of the upcoming Ant-Man movie because some of the changes they seem to be making, but i'm willing to wait and see. Speaking for my partner Min too, i think our biggest complaint so far is that there haven't been enough gigantic hats in the Thor movies. On a slightly more substantial note, i thought Thor 2 was good but was a little disappointed in the fact that they used Malekith but really made him not at all like Malekith. My fanboy dream of course would be the Casket of Ancient Winter saga, with all the other surrounding Marvel movies having an unexplained snowstorm (which would also help explain why, say, Iron Man doesn't show up when the world is threatened in the Thor movie). But that aside, i thought even the Thor movies and the Hulk movie and Iron Man 2 were good. Heck, i even watch the SHIELD tv show. I did think the X-Men movies were ok but they definitely had problems and i remember the third one being a terrible mess. I think the Spidey/Doc Ock battle on the train in Spider-Man 2 was awesome, but the Spidey movies were similarly at the X-Men level - ok but not fantastic. I haven't seen the Spider-Man reboot. Here's some other random reviews of the lesser tier movies. Characteristically, i haven't seen most of the recent DC movies. I fell asleep during the first of the Dark Knight Batman movies (there was an interminable car chase scene... on a roof? with a tank?) and haven't bothered to watch the rest or Superman. I'll probably see the Batman/Superman movie, though. By fnord12 | February 8, 2014, 12:50 AM | Comics
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