They also said it was the "most anti-Christmas film possible."

And that's after the director stripped out all the religious references.

I guess the movie's pretty damned good, then. We should see it. As soon as it's on dvd. I continue to vow never to go the the movie theatre again.

The Vatican newspaper said "honest" viewers would find it "devoid of any particular emotion apart from a great chill."

That's how i feel when i think about our government.

I wish they hadn't started calling the first book Northern Lights instead of The Golden Compass, though. What's with that?

We should see this and throw bibles at the screen!

OOO! Donuts, too!

i would love some donuts!

OK first off, I'm going to have to see this movie now, just to piss off the pope. Take that your popiness!

Secondly, as for this movie being the most anti-Christian movie ever, I BEG TO DIFFER!!!

Why? Check this out! This movie is Olaf Ittenbach's "Legion of the Dead".

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213802/

How is this movie more anti-Christian than "The Golden Compass"? There's no content in the movie that makes it specifically anti-Christian, but the answer is much, much simpler.

The fact that this movie exists proves that there is no such thing as a just and benevolent God.

Don't believe me? Watch Legion of the Dead for yourself. Then you'll see. When you are a shambling shell of your former self, devoid of all hope in redemption; you'll know the truth. The horrible, horrible truth.

Joshua and I saw the Golden Compass. Sigh.

I don't think anyone can follow the story if they haven't already read the book.

I also think all the things that made the book great - all of the philosophy and theory and cosmological speculation that spur real thought in the reader - are pretty much absent from the film. Of course, since it's a film. But still a bit depressing.

Lee Scorseby was very well cast. And, I mean, there are ARMORED BEARS. So it has that going for it. But.. meh.

So i haven't read these yet and i thought i would for once skip the books and just watch the movies so i wouldn't be disappointed... But it sounds like you're saying that's not a good idea...?

I had the feeling the storyline would've been confusing for anyone not already familiar with it, but I could be wrong. There's just so much going on!

I'd read the books and skip the movies altogether if I were you, but I know how hard it is to resist ARMORED BEARS.

Hey. Don'na watch thisa movie! It'sa freakin' bad for you, ah! Listen to me, I'mma da freakin' pope.

It's the ghost of an Italian pope! Throw bibles and donuts!

You're full of hunger and guilt, aren't you?

Nah, just got a lot of bibles and donuts.

He steals them from motels.

Motels don't leave donuts in the rooms. If you have an item that looks like a donut in a motel room, it was not left there by the motel staff. It is also, most likely, not a donut.

I stay at only reputable motels which have a continental breakfast. And you can't spell continental without donuts!

There's no "D" in continental. That's why the other letters score on it so much. Especially "J", because it has that vertical leap.