Characters Appearing: Aunt May, Aunt Watson, Betty Brant, Flash Thompson, Green Goblin (Norman Osborn), Gwen Stacy, Harry Osborn, J. Jonah Jameson, Kraven the Hunter, Man-Wolf (John Jameson), Mary Jane Watson, Ned Leeds, Spider-Man
Amazing Spider-Man #47
Issue(s): Amazing Spider-Man #47
Review/plot: Kraven again. I don't really understand the appeal of this guy and his, er, flamboyant tights and slippers. But this issue retcons his previous appearance (at least), saying that he was actually under the employ of the Green Goblin (that certainly didn't seem to be his motivation a the time. It's likely that he just took the money as a bonus).
Kraven is released from jail - which is odd because he's not a US citizen. Previous times that he's been caught he's been deported. He wants another crack at Spider-Man but needs money first (why?) so he decides to shake down Norman Osborn, since he's managed to associate Osborn with the Goblin (who everyone believes to be dead) but thinks that Osborn is the Goblin's flunky.
Flash Thompson's going away party is in this issue...
...and during the party (after an MJ/Gwen dance-a-thon) Kraven attacks and kidnaps Harry. Peter changes to Spidey to rescue Harry...
...but Kraven zaps him with a new device that saps his strength. However, when Norman shows up and Kraven sees that he has no recollection of working "for" the Goblin, Kraven lets him go.
Quality Rating: C+
Chronological Placement Considerations: N/A
Continuity Insert? N
My Reprint: Marvel Tales #187
I'm just curious, have you read Deadpool Vol 1 #11, that takes place during this issue, and do you consider it to be canon? I've read some interesting arguments on both sides.
Posted by: Time Traveling Bunny | March 12, 2013 11:48 AM
I read it in real-time but it's been a while. I like the "time travel creates alternate dimensions" rule for this sort of stuff, although i know the time-travel has implications for Weasel as well.
I do see that the Marvel Chronology Project doesn't list this issue for any of the ASM #47 characters and i'll most likely follow their lead.
Posted by: fnord12 | March 12, 2013 4:05 PM
Pants and slippers aside that is one boss vest Kraven wears.
Posted by: David Banes | November 24, 2013 4:02 AM
How does this site consider something like Spider-Man: Blue? It is kind of a retelling of these past few issues and retcons a lot.
Posted by: AlluAllu | August 25, 2016 12:05 PM
That story has a framing sequence taking place circa publication date (Peter talking into a tape recorder and talking to MJ, who is his wife at the time). So i'll cover it somewhere around the 2002 category. And i guess the retcons, at least relating to sequence, could be dismissed as coming from an unreliable narrator (Peter is upset at the time).
Posted by: fnord12 | August 25, 2016 1:19 PM
Ok, thanks! Makes sense.
Posted by: AlluAllu | August 26, 2016 12:06 AM
I personally like Kraven but then I like all the villains who adhere to a personal code as opposed the villains who will just do anything at any given time with no rhyme or reason. The Flash Thompson storyline was interesting to me at the time as although Iron Man, Cap and Thor had been to Vietnam this was the first time that an ordinary human regular character had been sent (in Marvel or DC, in fact, except for the sons of Lt. Hunter in DC's Hunters Hellcats no regular character in DC ever served in Vietnam).
Posted by: Bobby Sisemore | November 11, 2016 5:05 PM
Nobody draws Gwen and MJ like Jazzy John.
Posted by: Bigvis497 | October 3, 2017 12:40 AM
From what I can tell, this is the first really overt retcon in the Marvel Universe where one issue completely reframes the events of a previous issue.
Posted by: Jonathon | October 8, 2017 12:47 PM
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