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1992-08-01 06:07:10
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1992 / Box 34 / EiC: Tom DeFalco

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Fantastic Four #370

Issue(s): Fantastic Four #370
Cover Date: Nov 92
Title: "Forever evil"
Credits:
Tom DeFalco - Script
Tom DeFalco & Paul Ryan - Plot
Paul Ryan - Penciler
Dan Bulanadi - Inker
Pat Garrahy - Assistant Editor
Ralph Macchio - Editor

Review/plot:
This takes place during the final portion of Infinity War.

One thing to note right away is the way the Thing reacts to the Human Torch killing the doppelgangers.

As i've already noted, Dr. Druid told Captain America that it was ok to kill the doppelgangers at the very start of this event. But you can see that the Thing objects to it even when it's more or less demonstrated that killing them doesn't have any real effect (another thing which is kind of inconsistent about this event). The Thing thinks to himself that they'll "never be the same" after the Torch's actions.

Another thing that we learn is that the Invisible Woman was there for the fight between Thanos and his doppelganger, and even randomly interfered.

She then discovers a prison that is holding some of Earth's heroes.

I know how Mr. Fantastic and Iron Man got there. We saw them get replaced by doppelgangers. Possibly the others were meant to have been replaced during the fight in Infinity War #4 (although in the case of Darkhawk, i've decided that wasn't be the case due to where i've placed his crossover with Sleepwalker).

Sue frees the heroes, and, thanks to her Malice-influenced personality, gets to turn the tables and deliver a "shut up, Reed".

It's at this point that the final battle between Magus and Warlock begin. On the outskirts of that battle, Mr. Fantastic observes changes in both Johnny and Sue.

Sue seems more back to her old self as it seems like the universe is ending.

But she's back in hard-as-nails mode after it's all over.

The Thing thinks there's something inside her.

Meanwhile, Reed takes Sue's words to heart.

He's considering stepping down as leader when the Thing comes in with the Puppet Master to announce that Alicia's been kidnapped.

The subplot with Paibok, Devos, and Lyja continues, as well.

Quality Rating: C

Historical Significance Rating: 1

Chronological Placement Considerations: This takes place during Infinity War #6. Notice the Thing noting that the FF have a visitor, which is seemingly right after they all get back from the War. That's the arrival of the Puppet Master. The problem is that, at a minimum, Moon Knight #44, an Infinity War tie-in, has to take place before next issue (which continues from the arrival of the Puppet Master). Next issue starts the storyline where the Human Torch becomes a fugitive and then the Thing's face is scarred by Wolverine. So in fact a number of stories have to fit in somewhere, and the MCP place a gap between the FF arriving home from the Infinity War and the Thing's "What's happening to us?" panel. See the Considerations for Sleepwalker #17 regarding Darkhawk's appearance.

References: N/A

Crossover: Infinity War

Continuity Insert? N

My Reprint: N/A

Characters Appearing: Adam Warlock, Agatha Harkness, Alicia Masters, Angel, Aron the Watcher, Black Widow, Captain America, Colossus, Cyclops, Daredevil, Darkhawk, Devos the Devastator, Dr. Druid, Dr. Strange, Drax the Destroyer, Franklin Richards, Galactus, Gamora, Havok, Hercules, Hulk, Human Torch, Iceman, Invisible Woman, Iron Man, Jean Grey, Living Lightning, Lyja the Lazerfist, Magus (Evil Adam Warlock), Moondragon, Mr. Fantastic, Namorita, Nova (Frankie Raye), Nova (Rich Rider), Paibok the Power Skrull, Pip the Troll, Polaris, Professor X, Psylocke, Puppet Master, Rogue, Sasquatch, Scarlet Witch, Shaman, She-Hulk, Silver Surfer, Soul Gem, Storm, Strong Guy, Thanos, Thing, Thunderstrike, Vindicator (Heather Hudson), Vision, Wolverine, Wonder Man

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Comments

"Next issue starts the storyline where the Human Torch becomes a fugitive and then the Thing's face is scarred by Wolverine."
You didn't mention Sue's Stripperific new costume.
The chronology of the FF gets complicated at this point. The reason is because many other books didn't acknowledge Ben's scarred face. (Why, it's not like the writer of the FF was the Editor-In-Chief or something.) At the MCP, michel went through all the issues and made a list of which appearances Ben's face was scarred in and which appearances it was normal:
http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5857
As you can see it's a mess. And Alicia was definitely kidnapped during Infinity War, so the further ahead you push FF 371-375, the more you have to wonder why it took the FF so long to notice she was missing.

Posted by: Michael | April 10, 2016 5:25 PM

No Prize attempt:

In some appearances the Thing was experimenting with using an image inducer instead of a helmet.

Posted by: Red Comet | April 11, 2016 2:22 PM




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